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Old 06-06-2013, 06:32 PM
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Adrian, there is another book "Cobb" by Al Stump. A very good read, author tells the good and the bad about Cobb. I was amazed at how badly his teammates in Detroit treated him when he came up. I highly recommend this one.
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Stopping at a Greenville, South Carolina liquor store, Cobb noticed that the man behind the counter was none other than "Shoeless" Joe Jackson, who had been banned from baseball almost 30 years earlier following the Black Sox scandal. But Jackson did not appear to recognize him, and after making his purchase an incredulous Cobb asked, "Don't you know me, Joe?" "Sure I know you, Ty," replied Jackson, "but I wasn't sure you wanted to know me. A lot of them don't."

Cobb was a good man. I also think Joe Jackson was a humbled man after his mis-step in the scandal. I sure wish things would have turned out differently for Joe.

Thanks for starting the Cobb thread Zone.

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I will look into that book. Thanks.

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That is very very cool!!!

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Bear in mind that Stumps book has a lot of stuff that's just not true, or is written to make Cobb seem worse than he was. Stump also stole and/or faked a lot of Cobb memorabilia. There's a thread or two on the autograph side, and some of the bad Cobb we all "know" is simply wrong.

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Old 06-06-2013, 06:53 PM
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Then I will stay away from that book!!

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Bear in mind that Stumps book has a lot of stuff that's just not true, or is written to make Cobb seem worse than he was. Stump also stole and/or faked a lot of Cobb memorabilia. There's a thread or two on the autograph side, and some of the bad Cobb we all "know" is simply wrong.

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Steve, what you say is true, from everything else I have read about that book. A great read though.

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Old 06-06-2013, 07:16 PM
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Adrian, back in December I recommended the Al Stump book, and William R. Cobb sent me an article he wrote disputing much of Stump's book. Stump seems to have been a liar and forger.
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The Stump book was remade into a movie with Tommy Lee Jones as Cobb in his 70's - weird and entertaining flick!

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Bear in mind that Stumps book has a lot of stuff that's just not true, or is written to make Cobb seem worse than he was. Stump also stole and/or faked a lot of Cobb memorabilia. There's a thread or two on the autograph side, and some of the bad Cobb we all "know" is simply wrong.

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I read half of the Al Stump book and decided to search online for reviews. That's when I read about all the lies and the fraud. Just didn't seem very honest. I couldn't finish it after that. It felt more like fiction at that point.
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Hahaha the stick was funny as hell!!!!

WAY out of my price league...I would only spend over 10 000$ on 3 cards...the 52 Topps Mantle (Already own one and have ZERO need to upgrade), the Joe Jackson rookie and the Nap Lajoie in the 33 Goudey set.

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Hahaha the stick was funny as hell!!!!

WAY out of my price league...I would only spend over 10 000$ on 3 cards...the 52 Topps Mantle (Already own one and have ZERO need to upgrade), the Joe Jackson rookie and the Nap Lajoie in the 33 Goudey set.

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So I guess the Cobb, green portrait, PSA 7 is out of the question?
If I had $32,000.00 I didn't care about, I'd buy it now!

p.s. The poking stick was a nice addition to my repertoire. The standard emoticons are too limiting.
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Some of you might recall my article about Ty Cobb titled The Georgia Peach: Stumped by the Storyteller that was published in SABR's The National Pastime in 2010. This was discussed on this forum in an earlier thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=126438

(This article won the McFarland/SABR Award for Best Baseball History of the Year for 2010)

I have recently revised and updated that article and published it as a short book of the same title which is now available from $4.99 on Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1628408030

The revisions include the FBI report on the Ty Cobb diary in the HOF Museum that Al Stump forged. It took me two years to obtain that document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and an appeal of the initial FBI denial to release it. Also included is information and photos of the second Stump forged Ty Cobb diary that was in the Elliott Museum in Florida, plus a number of other items of forged memorabilia items there.

The revisions to the text are not extensive, but, in book form, I was able to present the exhibit photos in a much more legible format than was originally published in 2010.

I hope you will consider adding this book to your library.

William R. "Ron" Cobb
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As previous stated, the book by Charles Alexander on Cobb is the best written and highly recommended.
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