Spalding Ford Frick Ball - Not What It Seems

[Shoeless Moe]

Pastime Baseballs.com

I started a thread in Nov 2010 about pastime baseballs selling fakes, and this seller is oddly enough Pastime Collectibles, from the same area.

No coincidence. They even used to have a website selling the Repro/fake balls, very hard to tell them apart.

I would bet this clown has been selling a lot of fakes w/various Ebay ID's over the years.

Brandon - its in your area......who is this clown and how do u know him?

[BrandonG]

I don't want to throw anyone under the bus as of yet, he is a good guy, sold repro's but nothing like this before, a one time thing. Please let me try to handle the situation.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by BrandonG

I don't want to throw anyone under the bus as of yet, he is a good guy, sold repro's but nothing like this before, a one time thing. Please let me try to handle the situation.

How is the ball pictured in the book?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by BrandonG

I don't want to throw anyone under the bus as of yet, he is a good guy, sold repro's but nothing like this before, a one time thing. Please let me try to handle the situation.

He's a good guy? He sold this fake, I'm fairly certain he's sold other fakes as I remember that ID before and even started a thread on the joker years back. He hides feedback, for what reason? I believe we know. He took a ball from you and re-sold it knowing what it was, yet completely lied in his listing. He pretty far from a good guy.

[Mr. Mitt]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Pastime Baseballs.com

I started a thread in Nov 2010 about pastime baseballs selling fakes, and this seller is oddly enough Pastime Collectibles, from the same area.

No coincidence. They even used to have a website selling the Repro/fake balls, very hard to tell them apart.

I would bet this clown has been selling a lot of fakes w/various Ebay ID's over the years.

Brandon - its in your area......who is this clown and how do u know him?

One of the prior eBay id's of the seller in question was pastimebaseballs_com. Before that, the eBay id was brandongrun. You can clearly see this in Dan's earlier post. Now, take a look at the threads Paul references in his post above. Here are links;

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com


Jerry F!cch!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mitt

One of the prior eBay id's of the seller in question was pastimebaseballs_com. Before that, the eBay id was brandongrun. You can clearly see this in Dan's earlier post. Now, take a look at the threads Paul references in his post above. Here are links;

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com


Jerry F!cch!

This speaks volumes... Wow

[witster]

Perez, if my vernacular offends, this isn't church or Sunday school. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, ignore it. It doesn't disprove any of what I say.

Clueless Moe, I have met Brandon twice. I wanted to help with the book and perhaps to show off. As already I own two red/beige Frick balls and know their scarity, I wanted this one also. I consider him a friend, as I previously stated.

I've never met the seller. To suggest that I'm some part of a Holy Trinity of Baseball doctoring is laughable. You are using coincidence as evidence in your claims. Produce evidence, or STFU. You are lobbing grenades where they don't need to go. So, loosen the foil hat up a bit.

It's interesting to see the following quoted:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ebaseballs.com


Jerry F!cch![/QUOTE]

as I started a thread on Big League Baseballs long ago about this subject

http://forum.bigleaguebaseballs.com/....php?f=3&t=146


I don't have to produce a damn thing. I attempted to buy a baseball. Brandon had a guess that it was me who won the ball. He was correct. Brandon has his stance about protecting whomever this guy is. Why, I don't know. I told him my thoughts and its his name on the coals. It's not my job to protect Brandon. He's a big boy. He has this project going on and doesn't need the negative connections.

Witster

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by witster

I don't have to produce a damn thing. I attempted to buy a baseball. Brandon had a guess that it was me who won the ball. He was correct. Brandon has his stance about protecting whomever this guy is. Why, I don't know. I told him my thoughts and its his name on the coals. It's not my job to protect Brandon. He's a big boy. He has this project going on and doesn't need the negative connections.

Witster

You don't "have" to produce a damn thing, but if u did it would shut all the non-believers up. So u can continue to make it look shady or u could put an end to it.

[Mr. Mitt]

Originally Posted by witster

as I started a thread on Big League Baseballs long ago about this subject

http://forum.bigleaguebaseballs.com/....php?f=3&t=146

Witster

Thank you, Witser, I didn't know abut that thread on the other forum. Given that you were skeptical of pastimebaseballs.com then (both in your first post on the thread you began and again in your concluding post), aren't you the least bit curious as to this seller's connection to pastimebaseballs.com, who just happened to change their eBay user id from brandongrun? I am.


Jerry F!cch!

[Mr. Mitt]

Ok, I'm a little slow this morning. There are more pages to the thread Witster provided. I referenced the first and last post of his on the first page, only.

The second page includes a response from Brandon of pastimebaseballs.com. Look, obviously he is very knowledgable about the history of baseballs and should continue to share it. However, why hide personal history, even if it entailed producing replica baseballs that looked damned near original? Tell us the whole story and let's all move forward.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mitt

Ok, I'm a little slow this morning. There are more pages to the thread Witster provided. I referenced the first and last post of his on the first page, only.

The second page includes a response from Brandon of pastimebaseballs.com. Look, obviously he is very knowledgable about the history of baseballs and should continue to share it. However, why hide personal history, even if it entailed producing replica baseballs that looked damned near original? Tell us the whole story and let's all move forward.

Jerry,
The "WHOLE STORY" Hasnt been fabricated yet Someone has to figure out who will become the whipping boy. I also agree with Dan Money really has nothing to do with it. This is really a case of Boy got caught with his hand in the cookie jar,is now called out about it and has to figure a way out. Problem is now his creditably is shot to pieces either way he turns. Sorry Brandon I could never ever deal with you . As you put it a 20.50 mistake will now probably cost you your reputation my friend!

[dtp717]

I'm definitely late to the conversation, but I was shocked by what I began reading yesterday, and these attacks on Brandon have been bothering me since.

Al, I'm sure Brandon is just devastated that he'll never make a deal with you or your ridiculous emoticons ever again. I've got to say between you and Paul and Jerry and a couple of other folks on this thread, I'm deeply disappointed in how easy you all throw around accusations about a person who has gone above and beyond to help so many of us out with questions and concerns about vintage baseballs.

I first corresponded with Brandon when I had a bad eBay experience where someone sold me a fake ball. He couldn't have been more helpful and I've gone to him for valuable advice many time since then.

To think he'd throw away his hard earned reputation over a $20.50 ball is lunacy. It makes no sense.

Doug Franz