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06-05-2013, 10:51 AM
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There is another option though: Don't encapsulate. PSA doesn't have to encapsulate every photo that they authenticate. You also have the option of having them place their sticker on the back of the photo and issue an accompanying LOA. I would say, in general, just use your best judgement. The markings on a photo that will negatively impact selling price are typically those that are more obtrusive than simple crop marks (large areas of the background whited out, big fat lines laid on top of the paint, etc), but those are also the kinds of modifications that you probably don't want to attempt removing yourself due to their extensive nature. I would also say that, in that unusual circumstance where the editor's markings actually help to prove a photo's provenance (one of which we've talked about), you should definitely not remove them.
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06-05-2013, 04:12 PM
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Lance,
I understand, it will definately be encapsulated. Regarding PSA, I think I read on PSA's site that they now encapsulate all photos they authenticate. I may be wrong, but they way they worded it, it sounded like something new, or fairly new. Steve B. I know what you meant about the "white out" or whatever they used. It looks messy, and the one or two we have like that, I have not tried to print to see how they turn out. Otherwise they would be great photos. I am going to check with PSA about that encapsulating all photos, I hope I am wrong.
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06-06-2013, 12:05 PM
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I agree with both Steve and Lance's recommendation, but with a twist. Don't send to PSA at all unless you are going to be selling them in the short term.
While I like the Type system, I don't care for the idea of certification, much like I don't care for slabbed cards or autos. If I know it's a type 1 or vintage original, why do I need to pay for someone else's opinion? If I'm not sure or if I want to sell it and feel that the cert will add significantly more to the final price, that is different. That being said, I don't think that quality photos sell more that much less without certs as compared those with certs. If we eliminate the results from Henry's auction, which are usually well above typical prices, even in relation to the bigger auction houses, there are many sellers on ebay that get top dollar for high quality vintage photographs without any certs. If you do go for the cert, I wouldn't worry that much about whether to slab or not to slab. A buyer who wants the picture will likely buy it either way. They always have the option of cracking the slab if they want to. I have cracked many pictures out of slabs, especially those done by Beckett. IMO, their slabs take up waaaaay too much room for just a photograph. Best, Mark
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06-06-2013, 01:21 PM
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lordStan,
I probably won't slab a lot of photos, the special interset photos like golf and hunting, photos like that, but their are some that absolutely will need the authentication, and slabbing. Ot this collection, there are maybe 40 to 50 with crop marks. That's a lot of money for authenicating when we may not recoup the cost. But as I said, there are some that will be slabbed, even with the crop marks. This is why I asked this question, a little different opinions, and choices, that is what I was searching for. I appreciate all input, as I am as raw as a tenderfoot in the saddle. For the time being, I think I am going to have the most important ones authenticated first. I have emailed PSA about authenication without encapsulation, but I have not got a reply as yet.
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06-06-2013, 04:44 PM
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Sorry, but I disagree with this comment. No picture NEEDS authentication and slabbing. Some might sell for more money with a PSA/DNA letter or slab, but none need it. If you are starting a vintage photography collection, and keeping the pics you're talking about, then, IMHO, sending pics for certs is a waste of money. You can use the extra cash to buy more pics!  If you have high quality photos which you are selling, I would just offer them for sale without any certs. Take good, clear pictures, with well thought out write ups. I think, bad pics and descriptions are a much more significant reason why photos sell for lesser amounts, than having a cert from anyone. If the pics are really high end, I would consider submitting them to an auction like Henry Yee. He will likely get waay more than you will privately with or without the cert. Good luck either way. Enjoy collecting. Best, Mark
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06-06-2013, 05:57 PM
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Lordstan,
This is actually my cousin's collection, and I have been working with him, as he knows nothing. It was inherited from a great uncle all Ruths. The cousin's father wants to distribute the photos amongst the family, but how do you do that equally and fair when some are valuable than others. They have decided to sell, but father is the last holdout, but they will bring him around to their way of thinking. The collection may have some unstamped VanOeyens photos, and I am researching and have some positive proof, and these photos are what I was debating about. Slab or not slab. We have others to check, and we were hoping that collection would come out soon, but this process is taking longer then we thought. We are looking at selling in Spring of 2014, but who knows, could be sooner. Most of the collection, not much to talk about, special interest photo, golf, fishing, hunting, Japan Tour, etc. but there are some good ones besides those. I have been on this site before and showed a couple of the photos back in December, and after getting as much information as possible, we are at the point of getting the authentications. About 160 photos is a lot of money in authentications, hope the bulk rate is much lower. We haven't sold as much as a Coot Veal in our selling history, so this has been very slow. But I have bought some stuff, just was never a seller.
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