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Old 05-31-2013, 04:11 PM
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I would definitely recommend shelling out the $40 or so and buying the book. This area of the hobby has certainly grown by leaps and bounds over the past few years. It will probably never be as popular as cards but the key is: how much more room for growth is there?
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If you're looking at getting into photos for investment purposes, then I agree with what Phil said - I just don't think that they're many (if any) things in the hobby that will unseat the popularity and collectibility of cards. I still feel that photos are still in their infancy stages in that regard, but with major auction houses and people like John Rogers thrusting them into the spotlight, I can imagine that more and more people will start to take that corner of the hobby more seriously. Whether or not that'll effect prices positively or negatively, it's really hard to say.

However, if you're into the whole thing just because you love the aesthetics of photography, then I think it's a great time to be getting into the medium.

Regardless, the $40 should DEFINITELY be spent on Henry and Marshall's book, as should the $20 for Cycleback's publication. Both have a wealth of knowledge that will inspire you. And I can say that without a doubt, this board is a perfect place for people to fuel that hunger for photography.

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Old 05-31-2013, 04:52 PM
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...and Mark and I like echoing each other!

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Where can you even get it for $40? Every time I look for it, it's nearly a hundred bucks. I even asked Mr. Yee if he had any extra copies I could buy and he doesn't
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if you buy a photo, you cant turn around and reprint, sell copies because you dont own the copyright to do so, the photographer does, so unless you buy it with the reproduction rights from the photographer, it is for your own personal use only. now i suppose some people do anyway, but technically they are not allowed to sell prints.
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if you buy a photo, you cant turn around and reprint, sell copies because you dont own the copyright to do so, the photographer does, so unless you buy it with the reproduction rights from the photographer, it is for your own personal use only. now i suppose some people do anyway, but technically they are not allowed to sell prints.
I'm pretty sure you can do anything you want with a pre 1923 image.
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Where can you even get it for $40? Every time I look for it, it's nearly a hundred bucks. I even asked Mr. Yee if he had any extra copies I could buy and he doesn't
Thanks for all the replies and info. The Fogel/Yee book was on Amazon (used) earlier today ... and now I see it's gone (I assume sold today). Anyway ... I'll keep an eye out for it again on Amazon or Abe books for hopefully < $50 ... I've a lot to learn about collecting baseball and sports photo's. In fact ... I'd like to collect photo's of popular movie and music stars from the 50's/60's too, but then I don't have very deep pockets ... so probably just a dream :-) I did just read about John Rogers and checked out his eBay store. Thanks again for the info!
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I'm pretty sure you can do anything you want with a pre 1923 image.
That is my understanding as well, though I'm not sure how the whole thing with separate rights for the team logos and certain players' images would work in conjunction with that. Maybe free to use the image, but a separate fee to MLB and/or the player's estate would be required? I have no idea if that's actually the case, but would be interested to hear from anyone who does.

As for Yee/Fogel's book, I actually pick up extra copies of it whenever I see them reasonably priced. I don't normally push my product on the boards, but seems appropriate in this thread, sooo...

Right now, I have a spare copy in good used condition for $45 shipped. PM me if interested.

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Also, feel free to ask ANY and ALL questions here. Some of us on here who have devoted literally thousands of hours to antique photography would love to help no matter how easy or difficult the question is. There are things that it took me years and years to learn and then something hits you after looking at like your one millionth photo that you could pass along to someone else in 2 seconds and save them the agony! Especially since the "Type 1-4" system has its flaws and while the book is wonderful, its not perfect and much has been learned since the publication as well. Let em fly!

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:42 PM
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Since I collect examples of individual photographer's photos even more than
I acquire particular baseball players, I am very happy to see information on the photo which elucidates elements regarding the photographers and presses. I am ecstatic when I compare the reverse of my various Conlon
photos and see his signature, various notations such as player's name, and
the stamp such as Evening Telegram. Most any editorial 'marks' are fine with me if
they give me a deeper sense of the photographer and presses 'doing their
thing.' I love seeing the Bain photos with the various notations derived from
etchings done on the negatives. Comparing the press stamps on the backs
is great fun and most educational as I learn more and more about the various
acquisitions and mergers of presses over the years. I also have found my way of collecting as a key way to gain 'pictures' of lesser known players,
who often have no baseball cards. Here I think of my 1920 van oeyen photo of Cleveland Indians player Clark who played only a couple of years but was
on their rare World Series winning team.
A great hobby, this is, and I highly recommend the Yee,Fogel, Oser volume
that has a central place on my desk.
all the best,
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