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Old 05-31-2013, 08:11 AM
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I don't have an opinion on the T206 scraps, but I am extremely surprised that other sets from the era don't see prices at least in the ballpark for their scrap.

For instance, I bought this E92 missing color on eBay within the past year for $85. If this were a T206, I assume it would be several thousand?

Should the price disparity be THAT big??
Exactly! If the phenomenon is limited to T206, then it is not scrap collecting -- it is weirdo-T206 collecting. Nothing wrong with that, but even I don't limit my pursuit of signed prewar to T206.

Promotion is a double-edged sword. I love sharing my signed T206 conquests here and on my website. But it certainly has raised interest and prices for these. Good when I go to sell, of course, but bad in the near term.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:47 AM
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I don't have an opinion on the T206 scraps, but I am extremely surprised that other sets from the era don't see prices at least in the ballpark for their scrap.

For instance, I bought this E92 missing color on eBay within the past year for $85. If this were a T206, I assume it would be several thousand?

Should the price disparity be THAT big??
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Exactly! If the phenomenon is limited to T206, then it is not scrap collecting -- it is weirdo-T206 collecting. Nothing wrong with that, but even I don't limit my pursuit of signed prewar to T206.

Promotion is a double-edged sword. I love sharing my signed T206 conquests here and on my website. But it certainly has raised interest and prices for these. Good when I go to sell, of course, but bad in the near term.
I like that e92 and would have scooped it up if I noticed it. You are right though, t206 prices for scrap compared to their common counterpart is astronomical compared to other sets. Even t205s get a premium but no where near where its counterpart in the t206 would get. I would think the natural move would be that people that do like scrap but can't afford t206 may navigate to another niche in the t206 world or they will have to go into other sets. So it may be that t206 is just leading the way for other sets.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:48 AM
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This has turned into an interesting debate! I'm still a few steps over to Scott and Peter's side here...it seems ridiculous and irrational that freaks and scraps from other sets of the same era get pretty much no respect as compared to t206. It's a mania...people have gone manic over anything and everything T206...and that's fine...that's good for the hobby I suppose.

But there are tons of other unique/one/close to one of a kind cards...it's gotten to the point where many collectors consider every vintage card to be one of a kind because it's condition and print characteristics are unique to itself alone.

"It's the only sgc 20 with ink blotch by his head in existence!"

I still believe that in no way will the t206 price trend continue well into the future...NO WAY!!!!
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:16 AM
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This is one of my favorite threads recently (along with the Dots Miller thread).
It seems to have a bit of everything.

One thing I'm curious about; the auction description didn't have a photo of the backs, but several people must've asked for a shot of the backs. Is it the fact that the Brain card had the piedmont print on the front that made people suspect there might be gold on the back?


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We all likely have cards that do this to us, I sure hope everyone does and we should all respect that....thats the beauty of this hobby....so many types and ways to collect and equally so many different kinds of people...all connected by old cardboard. We are all a little crazy in our own little way.
Johnny I do appreciate your enthusiasm for the printer scraps and the descriptive explanation. Made me sit up and take notice.............. I have a few t206's in my modest monster that I consider uniquely interesting (due to stamps or random handwriting or the like), and I do enjoy those. I can see the attraction.


Leon would you mind posting your t206 printer scrap? I really thought it was cool the first time I saw it and would love to see it one more time.


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Old 05-31-2013, 09:26 AM
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T206 scraps have become their own individual 'set' to collect. It is easy to group them into different types and there are a lot of them compared to other card types. The fact that there are 524 cards in their parent set also makes a big difference. To me it is a no-brainer as to why they get so much attention compared to other scraps. I just don't see some of the non-aesthetically-pleasing ones as being worth so much. But they are to some people, and that's great.
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By the way,Johnny - almost all the t206 cards in my personal collection have something wrong with them, so to say that I have "turned" on them is absurd. I have even paid a premium for a few freaks that I still have.

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This thread is interesting. Neat to see what drives others and why I have always taken the stance that all of our collectibles are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them.

I have a modest collection of mistakes, errors and oddballs compared to others.



For me on these I sort of take the stance if I can get a really nice example of each type that’s great. Also if I can get it for a price I feel is within reason that’s an added bonus. I don’t see myself needing or wanting dozens upon dozens of these or facing choices of dropping say 10-20k on one of these as compared to a major tier card of a superstar or scarce type card.



The buying pool isn’t limited to the few that post here while I agree the pool may be smaller say compared to other items it’s not that small.

I also agree that having a few strong bidders enter the fray can seriously tweak prices and those prices can fall. Case in point we have seen this with plenty of cards and it would be silly to think that these are immune from the rise and fall that have hit other cards such as T211, T210, T209B&W, E-Cards, and certain 19th Cards etc.

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True beauties John.

Most of these are getting beyond the usual suspects on this forum's budgets...we sit and watch several a month go. Its really not like we are enjoying these sky high prices.

On a much smaller, positive note I was able to reunite these sheetmates after 100 years.

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That's cool Chris.
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Very nice John.

Is the Magie portrait grouped with the rest in your photo only because it is the famous spelling error, or is there some other printer error associated with this card?
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great cards chris and john...modest my ass!!!
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Thanks for the kind words, it's just the plain ol' error Magie.

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Leon would you mind posting your t206 printer scrap? I really thought it was cool the first time I saw it and would love to see it one more time.


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Always glad to oblige, Tony. There might be someone in Kenya who hasn't see it yet . I am so glad I got it before the freaks took off. If I am not mistaking this is STILL the highest price ever paid for a T206 scrap. Someone correct me if I am wrong please...It was $9780 around 4-5 yrs ago. I think it would go higher today...but who knows??


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