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Old 05-26-2013, 06:41 PM
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HOFers with scarce backs are only getting $200 in VG 3? Please pardon my ignorance. Where do I sign up?

I will edit my original response accordingly. Apologies to all.

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Old 05-26-2013, 06:44 PM
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On HOFers with scarce backs--that's why I wrote 2/3. It has varied a lot, depending on HOFer. I got two PSA 3s last week for $210-220.
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:43 AM
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I guess a lot of it comes down to whether the current "scarcity" trend eases or heightens.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:48 AM
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Am I the only member here who thinks that all of our cardboard will be worth less in 5/10 years? Dave.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:04 AM
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I would guess the HOF's with rare backs. I don't see the back craze going away.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:14 AM
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Yes, that's a key question--the one about where prices for all cards will be in 5 to 10 years. i've read a few theories here based on age--as a Boomer myself--and how that will (may) influence things down the road. Some have assumed drastic drop in interest and prices in a few years as Boomers retire and unload and far fewer younger collectors. Others claim that in retirement Boomers will have more time (and in some cases, money) to collect. Myself, I wonder if there will be a boom for 10 years and then a drastic drop as Boomers truly unload (or die).

The other issue is what about those younger collectors? After all, this is not about nostalgia for cards we grew up with in '50s and '60s but for cards over 100 yrs old. So where do younger people stand on that?
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I think given the negative attention that psa had gotten lately, I'm gonna trend towards the possibility that higher grades(in PSA) may not be held in "as high" of a regard 5 years from now.

Now having said that, the Hall of famers jump to the top, the rarer backs(I believe) will keep trending upwards...So Hof with the rarer backs..(even assuming you meant non-elites)...I also think the non-elites will trend upwards on their own anyways...

I think SOME of the reason's that the non-elites are valued so low, could be the perception created by the guides. It's hard to justify a significant price jump in the books on a card that's been valued at almost common price for so long, just because of an election almost 80-100 years after a player's playing days. Most pre-war cards rarely change "book values", and most of the time the pre-war and/or more obscure sets seem to be priced based on tiers rather than actuality. I think at some point this may change and the marginal hofer will go up a few ticks, and just be viewed as a HOFer, with his once common days a faded memory....

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Old 05-28-2013, 12:41 PM
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I think given the negative attention that psa had gotten lately, I'm gonna trend towards the possibility that higher grades(in PSA) may not be held in "as high" of a regard 5 years from now.

Now having said that, the Hall of famers jump to the top, the rarer backs(I believe) will keep trending upwards...So Hof with the rarer backs..(even assuming you meant non-elites)...I also think the non-elites will trend upwards on their own anyways...

I think SOME of the reason's that the non-elites are valued so low, could be the perception created by the guides. It's hard to justify a significant price jump in the books on a card that's been valued at almost common price for so long, just because of an election almost 80-100 years after a player's playing days. Most pre-war cards rarely change "book values", and most of the time the pre-war and/or more obscure sets seem to be priced based on tiers rather than actuality. I think at some point this may change and the marginal hofer will go up a few ticks, and just be viewed as a HOFer, with his once common days a faded memory....
George Davis and Vic Willis were elected 80-100 years after they played, but far more of the non-elite HOFers have been in Cooperstown for a very long time - e.g., Bresnahan, Griffith, Huggins, Duffy, Jimmy Collins, Flick, Joss, Beckley, Clarke, Kelley, Marquard, Wallace, McGinnity, and McGraw. Of that group, Joss was the only one elected after 1971, and he went in in 1978. More of that group were elected before 1946 than after 1970.

I too would go with the rare back HOFers for the most likely increase.

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George Davis and Vic Willis were elected 80-100 years after they played, but far more of the non-elite HOFers have been in Cooperstown for a very long time - e.g., Bresnahan, Griffith, Huggins, Duffy, Jimmy Collins, Flick, Joss, Beckley, Clarke, Kelley, Marquard, Wallace, McGinnity, and McGraw. Of that group, Joss was the only one elected after 1971, and he went in in 1978. More of that group were elected before 1946 than after 1970.

I too would go with the rare back HOFers for the most likely increase.
Sorry. Yeah. I was speaking more of the fringe guys...
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Am I the only member here who thinks that all of our cardboard will be worth less in 5/10 years? Dave.
Nope Dave

When our economy junks(as it will, impossible to be sustained in the way it is going), most of the card values might flop. But some certain(in demand cards)will be sought after even with freefall.
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Nope Dave

When our economy junks(as it will, impossible to be sustained in the way it is going), most of the card values might flop. But some certain(in demand cards)will be sought after even with freefall.

I agree, I think there is going to be a great buying opportunity in next couple years....
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As the U. S. dollar is replaced as the "world standard". Our country will economically collapse. The U. S. is destined to be a 3rd world nation. There will be the rich and the poor. No middle class. A depression that will make the 30's seem like a Sunday picnic, and last until there is a "change" in the consciousness of humankind, or an end to humankind.
Carry on gentlemen. Dave

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I think once everyone gets tired of T206 collecting and all the rare back craze, they'll shift back to D or E cards... Bound to happen anyway...

I will say that low grade rare back HOFers probably have the best bet to move up in value.
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