Fair shake; calling out Kirk Keith

[mcadams]

Originally Posted by eb548

I am unaware of any prior history between joey farino and his accuser alluded to in this post. However i must mention a recent transaction between a Joseph Farino and myself on ebay dated 4/13/13. I purchased a t206 cobb red portrait for $625. Never received and messaged the seller numerous times inquiring about the card to no avail. Seller never responded and i receive an email from paypal that my money was refunded. The seller -- Joseph Farino -- no communication and refused to send the card. I checked the sellers history and he sold the same exact card to another ebay member a few days prior to my purchase and refunded his money as well! I do know if this is the same Joseph Farino but his ebay id i believe was ital**nz (the item has been deleted so i cant retrieve the member history off ebay) and his email which was linked to his paypal account was celtic*****91@gmail.com. If this is the correct Joseph Farino, I feel obligated to let the forum members know. Do not deal with! Absolute horrific seller. If it is not, i apologize and will remove this post should i receive proper evidence.

Ethan- Your post is the most interesting FACT raised in this thread. Remember the T206 Red Portrait Cobb that he sold twice (once to you) back in April? And Joey came here in this thread and said that he changed his mind twice about selling the card..... Well check this out. He tried to sell the SAME Ty Cobb card on May the 7th on the BST at CU. His price on that thread was $665.

http://forums.collectors.com/message...ighlight_key=y

[mcadams]

Joey- Correct me if I'm wrong, but you go by Yankeehero74 on CU, correct?

So why would you sell the card twice on ebay, refund the payment twice to 2 different buyers, tell them both that you changed your mind about selling the card, and then try to sell it for a 3rd time a few weeks later on CU?

[thehoodedcoder]

i still do not understand the name posting thing. every ones name is already on every post....right?

your name is not in the thread...but is is on the header of every thread you post. while it is definitely a rule i just question what the purpose of it is? what do you get by making people physically type their name in every time they post something?

and why would you want to spend your time policing this rule? i just don't see any purpose to it. wouldn't it make more sense to have people put their real name in the profile and be done with it. then there is no i forgots, no woops. and no policing stuff on hundreds of topics, thousands of posts etc.

kevin

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

i still do not understand the name posting thing. every ones name is already on every post....right?

your name is not in the thread...but is is on the header of every thread you post. while it is definitely a rule i just question what the purpose of it is? what do you get by making people physically type their name in every time they post something?

and why would you want to spend your time policing this rule? i just don't see any purpose to it. wouldn't it make more sense to have people put their real name in the profile and be done with it. then there is no i forgots, no woops. and no policing stuff on hundreds of topics, thousands of posts etc.

kevin

No, I wasn't asking that you have to post your name in every post, technically, even though that might be what I said. The main thing is for anyone giving an opinion of someone or a company, or anyone getting into an argument etc.....to have the other party know who you are. I think it sucks when people make snide comments and give opinions of people or companies and those people or companies don't know who it is saying things about them. I knew this thread would be heated somewhat so that is why the rule was made for this thread. As I said before, I think everyone deserves a place to be able to fairly debate things. If any of our members don't like this then don't click on the thread. And this thread is here because I felt Joey deserved a place to air his issues with his accuser. The fact his accuser won't come here to debate and back up his stories, to me, means they might not be true accusations. So in that respect maybe Joey accomplished what he wanted to. On the other hand it seems Joey also has taken a lot of heat, most of it sounds like it is deserved. This thread will most likely be gone in a day or so and it's not the end of the world.

I did like the comment about him and Adrian doing a card deal...it could be a case of buyers AND sellers remorse. That was classic.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Leon

No, I wasn't asking that you have to post your name in every post, technically, even though that might be what I said. The main thing is for anyone giving an opinion of someone or a company, or anyone getting into an argument etc.....to have the other party know who you are. I think it sucks when people make snide comments and give opinions of people or companies and those people or companies don't know who it is saying things about them. I knew this thread would be heated somewhat so that is why the rule was made for this thread. As I said before, I think everyone deserves a place to be able to fairly debate things. If any of our members don't like this then don't click on the thread. And this thread is here because I felt Joey deserved a place to air his issues with his accuser. The fact his accuser won't come here to debate and back up his stories, to me, means they might not be true accusations. So in that respect maybe Joey accomplished what he wanted to. On the other hand it seems Joey also has taken a lot of heat, most of it sounds like it is deserved. This thread will most likely be gone in a day or so and it's not the end of the world.

I did like the comment about him and Adrian doing a card deal...it could be a case of buyers AND sellers remorse. That was classic.

i totally understand, but your reply does not really address what i am saying.

my entire point is, it is far easier to police someones personal profile during sign up to make sure there name is there, which automatically goes on every post, rather than trying to police every discussion and every post on the entire sitem, and getting everyone to follow a rule which is based entirely on the circumstances of the thread...right?

not only that, the rule itself leaves room for interpretation about what should and should not be considered hot, heated, snide or whatever other words you want to call it when adding a name is required. you had to premptively step in and remind everyone of the rule, that ultimately shouldn't need to exist if you enforced it at sign up.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

i totally understand, but your reply does not really address what i am saying.

my entire point is, it is far easier to police someones personal profile during sign up to make sure there name is there, which automatically goes on every post, rather than trying to police every discussion and every post on the entire sitem, and getting everyone to follow a rule which is based entirely on the circumstances of the thread...right?

not only that, the rule itself leaves room for interpretation about what should and should not be considered hot, heated, snide or whatever other words you want to call it when adding a name is required. you had to premptively step in and remind everyone of the rule, that ultimately shouldn't need to exist if you enforced it at sign up.

A lot of people DON'T want their full name on a forum. That is the reason it isn't mandated at sign up. As long as they stick to just talking about cards, and general hobby topics, their names won't be required. I believe, right or wrong, that makes for a better and more active forum.

And as for the folks that don't like this thread, it is your prerogative to voice your opinion, just like everyone else. My tongue is bleeding from biting it so much though.

[KCRfan1]

Joey, if Kirk is on this board, he is doing the smartest thing he can do. Not respond and let you do all of the talking. This is not going very well for you.