1961 topps with green inside baseball

[ALR-bishop]

Saved---I have one like that as well

[brightair]

Hi Al and all,
Thanks for this thread! Looking through my 1961 dupes I found only a couple of baseball bleeds and a couple margin bleeds, which I am listing on my variations pages. Also listing all the ones you guys so thoughtfully scanned.
Meanwhile I noticed a handful of my dupes had what looked like two-toned green on the back. Meaning that the large green area around the stats was significantly darker in one area and lighter in the rest. Didn't look like light exposure and varied completely in extent and degree from card to card. I would send scans but don't yet know how. I found this on cards #216, 225, 230, 242 and 246. Curious that the numbers are so close...
Anyone else notice this?
Richard Dingman
https://sites.google.com/site/richar...ns-1960---1969

[Cliff Bowman]

And another...

[ALR-bishop]

Another good catch Cliff. What should PSA do ?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Another good catch Cliff. What should PSA do ?

If PSA only recognized the version of the 1961 Topps Ron Fairly with the whole bottom part of the baseball neatly filled in with green ink up to the stitches there wouldn't be a problem, but when they allowed any version with just a random smattering of green ink in the baseball it opened up a can of worms.

[ALR-bishop]

That may have given them an out but I have seen a DeMint with a pretty full bottom.... as bad as that sounds

[Northviewcats]

Went through a lot of 1961 Topps this morning and found a Turley with the Green smudge.

Another fun thing to look for when buying lots on eBay.

Best regards,

Joe

[Tomman1961]

I have to agree with Cliff. I see far to many print differences to call them varitions. When I was collecting the set, the variations listed were mainly the checklists. The green bleed on these, and print defects where dust landed on the plate and no ink, is getting to be a bit much to list them all as variations.

[doug.goodman]

I am happy to report than a grand total of none of my 598 different Topps 1961 baseball cards have even a hint of green inside the baseball on the back.

These are print dots, not variations.

Give me 50 different copies of a specific card from this set, and I will show you 50 different "variations" based on similar happenings in the print process.

I'm happy for the ebay sellers who make money selling these "newly discovered variations" to those who weren't around for PT Barnum to sell things to.

I'm also happy that the people who get paid for their opinions are deciding to note these differences, and not because they make more money doing so, I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Happy collecting,
Doug