Were they the best......

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Support for a steroid user, please. When did he EVER test positive...not once. It's ALL speculation. Bonds never failed one drug test, Bonds had never got caught using steroids. So please, enough with this steroid crap.

This just in, "Earth Not Flat!"

Show me the proof, show me his positive test results, please. Humor me

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Show me the proof, show me his positive test results, please. Humor me

I have none and you know it. However to deny that "that" is by far the most plausible explanation for what he was able to accomplish at an advanced age is in a word "myopic."

Look you can admire what he achieved if you like, it was phenomenal. However it like the accomplishments of many of his brethren will always have a stench associated with it.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I have none and you know it. However to deny that "that" is by far the most plausible explanation for what he was able to accomplish at an advanced age is in a word "myopic."

Look you can admire what he achieved if you like, it was phenomenal. However it like the accomplishments of many of his brethren will always have a stench associated with it.

Hey, I agree. But it's all speculaction, whether he's superhuman or got help, I will go with innocent until proven guilty

[Lordstan]

Guys,
Sorry, but you're not going to convince Brent about Bonds. He is his favorite player, I think.
We had a very similar debate early last year in a thread "players you refuse to collect." At that time, we were debating Bonds to Ruth. If he feels Barry is flat out better than Ruth, he is surely going to think he is better than Pujols.

If you are interested and want to read the exchange, here is the link.
He begins his debate with other around post 43 and I chimed in around post 69.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ht=ruth&page=5

BTW, I like Brent. We just disagree significantly on this topic.

Mark

[Lordstan]

Hmmm.

[HRBAKER]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. He obviously admires Barry (as a player). That's ok.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. He obviously admires Barry (as a player). That's ok.

Well said, thank you. That's what great about baseball is we can have these debates. You necessarily can't with the other big 3 sports

[Paul S]

The WAS runoff between Clemens and Jeter.

And the difference of WAS and was NOT for a single player. Ripken Jr, for instance.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

Guys,
Sorry, but you're not going to convince Brent about Bonds. He is his favorite player, I think.
We had a very similar debate early last year in a thread "players you refuse to collect." At that time, we were debating Bonds to Ruth. If he feels Barry is flat out better than Ruth, he is surely going to think he is better than Pujols.

If you are interested and want to read the exchange, here is the link.
He begins his debate with other around post 43 and I chimed in around post 69.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ht=ruth&page=5

BTW, I like Brent. We just disagree significantly on this topic.

Mark

Thanks for the kind words Mark, I do appreciate it. I really enjoy our civil debates we have in this forum (for the most part), it's a great learning experience and I love reading others views on their favorite players, very fun, and I respect everyone's views, hard to say you can't respect someone's opinion.

Bonds is by far nowhere near close to my favorite player. I think he's an absolute dick, but I truly respect and love his abilities as a player. Mauer is by far my favorite, and no one is close to second, and may be Puckett. What MN kid didn't love Puck growing up , gosh we miss him.

And as we speak, we are getting no hit but my boy Mauer will break it

And he did!!!