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View Poll Results: Were these guys the best of their time or not
Barry Bonds was one of the best of his time 73 65.18%
Barry bonds was NOT one of the best of his time 20 17.86%
Roger Clemens was one of the best of his time 80 71.43%
Roger Clemens was NOT one of the best of his time 14 12.50%
Gary sheffield was one of the best of his time 16 14.29%
Gary sheffield was NOT one of the best of his time 71 63.39%
derek jeter was one of the best of his time 79 70.54%
derek jeter was NOT one of the best of his time 19 16.96%
cal ripken jr was one of the best of his time 74 66.07%
cal ripken jr was NOT one of the best of his time 26 23.21%
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Who cares about fielding? You do. You brought it up. Also I didn't compare Fielding to Fielding I compared their overall rank to position. I know bonds Stole bases. So you are saying that because no other stat helps him you are going to look at the one stat that helps your case? I guess stealing bases makes up for the times he didn't get on base because he was fanning the pitcher. I am not saying Bonds wasn't good, but there is no way that he could be considered the greatest as was the claim.
They are different positions, again look at the reasoning on fielding percentage, it's significantly easier to have a higher fielding percentage playing first. Let's see where your beloved Pujols ends up on the all-time charts. I could give two shits about first 10 years. If you looked at my prior post I said I admit Pujols probably had the greatest first 10 years in history, but that doesn't mean anything if he doesn't do it the next 10.

I don't need to dig stats when it's all said and done. Bonds will have the better numbers, across the board other than hits, most likely RBI's and obviously Doubles. Bonds got on base more than Pujols, so what if he k's, had he not k'ed as much, I can't even fathom what his stats would look like.

Look, I love Pujols, I'm so thankful I've gotten to see him play a few times, and he will go down as one of the best of all-time without a doubt (steroid implications or not). Two tremendous players, and Pujols' stretch seems done unfortunately. Yes, 10-11 amazing special seasons, but I want to see what he does over 20 years.
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