Exhibit card oddity or ?

[Exhibitman]

Definitely not a PC or pirated piece. Like I said, it is first generation from the original company art.

Definitely not a machine header. I've handled a lot of those and the stock is all wrong.

I am thinking some kind of production piece, but if the collective card knowledge here is stumped, I guess I am too.

[bbcarddan]

Well since you discovered it call it whatever you want, think of it as an object from outer space. Same as astronomy when something is discovered you get to name it.

As others have said if you don`t know what it is the rest of us will never know!

[steve B]

Could it be cut from a corner of a sheet?

If they cut into the printed area to get the final size that might explain it.
I don't have a mays to compare, or an uncut sheet. There's a few out there arent there?

Steve B

[Exhibitman]

Nope, can't be from a production sheet because the stock is wrong.

[pawpawdiv9]

I found this if it helps
1947-1966 Exhibit Near Master Set
http://apr08.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...pl?itemid=8292




ALSO CHECK THIS LINK OUT AS WELL:
http://saleshop.s3.amazonaws.com/dis...mlb-cards.html

1947/1966 Exhibit Supply Baseball Card Willie Mays New York Giants EXMT - MLB Cards
by Sports Memorabilia

[pawpawdiv9]

I did find this site interesting to read:
http://www.imageevent.com/exhibitman...ngexhibitcards

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

I did find this site interesting to read:
http://www.imageevent.com/exhibitman...ngexhibitcards

Love your site Adam. How many exhibit cards do you own?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Nope, can't be from a production sheet because the stock is wrong.

Proof sheet?

Hard to believe they'd waste that much cardboard, but it does look like it would be normal sized if they cut a border around each card.

Looking at these sheets that does look like what they did.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...llection-(19)#

http://www.josportsinc.com/catalog/view.php?id=10900

I can't recall seeing an exhibit showing a part of another card.
Not really good manufacturing practice, but cutting all four edges would have let them have few obvious miscuts. And if the sheets are any indication, that cardboard would have been wasted anyway.

The only reasons I can think of to cut that way which has a lot more labor cost - 25-26 cuts instead of around 14 or less -

Having no obvious miscuts.

maybe some flexibility in size? Like if a competitors machine took cards a bit narrower or wider they could adjust for that. I'd think that the other companies would be looking to copy ESCO so they could get their cards into the machines of the one with more market share. Maybe there was some sort of machine that sold something else close in size?

If the cutting was not guillotine, but die cutting the whole sheet at once. I don't think that's realistic. Their printing was low tech, and die cutting the whole sheet would be pretty advanced. All mine are lower grade, so the stuff that would indicate die cutting would be long gone. But the nice ones aren't even close.

Steve B

[Exhibitman]

Steve, the sets from Legendary are white-bordered. The issue in question was borderless. The uncut sheets were not oversized and cut down. They had very slight borders between four-card groups but were otherwise full bleed borderless in the four-card groups, so no card would have more than a very slight border on two sides. Here is an example of a typical sheet:



Also, as far as I know, they would never adjust for other company machines. There was no competition by the 1950s anyway. Mutuscope closed down in the late 1940s and its artwork went to ESCO, which reconfigured the girlie artwork so it could issue several card series in its size. Here is an example, with the ESCO product being the larger one:

[steve B]

I was hoping the sheets of the bordered cards would show what I was thinking a bit better.

Here's a better example. Billy Goodman, on the sheet his entire hand is there at the left, and on the right there's more belt showing. On the cards as they were sold the edge of his hand is cut off, and the edge almost always touches the edge of the belt loop at the right.
(Shown for everyone else, I'm betting you've got at least one )


So I'm thinking they cut a strip out from between the cards, I looked at a few others and they all are both narrower and shorter than the sheet image. Most don't show it as well as Goodman.

The adapting to other machines was a guess as to why they'd do the cutting that way, which does take more cutting. The competition being gone by the late 40's is a good point, so it probably wasn't for that.

Probably for quality then.

Steve B