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[steve B]

Originally Posted by novakjr

It's basically a contract. If you buy this ticket, and you enter the stadium, you are entered into it and waive your right to free speech. It's just the Yankees covering their ass in case someone tries to sue based on free speech.

That's probably already happened. I have a friend who works as a librarian for a law firm and he says whenever I see some crazy warning on something like "don't use hedge trimmer in shower" or "don't pick up lawnmower while running" You can be sure someone was actually that stupid, sued and won because there were no warnings or directions covering that. (The first example I made up, the second actually happened, someone picked up a running gas lawnmower an attempted to use it as a hedge trimmer with -at least to me- predictable results. He won )

So it's probable that someone got kicked out of Yankee stadium and sued based on free speech. Even if they didn't win, that's an expensive thing for the team, so it goes on the ticket.

Have a read of the back of a ski lift ticket someday. When I started in the 70's the back basically said "skiing can be dangerous and you're responsible if you do something silly" Now it says that in something like 4 paragraphs. (They can and will also send you off to rentals if you have really old equipment and it's not a planned vintage ski day)

Steve B

[T206Collector]

When people cite their First Amendment rights on here, there are always a bunch of lawyers who like to point out the lack of governmental action here on a private message board. To get side tracked by what the Constitution says in this context is really besides the point.

The only point is what limitations on your ability to say whatever you want on Net54 are put in place by Leon. To say that he operates anything but a card forum that encourages the free expression of ideas related to baseball cards is just plain wrong. You have all of the freedom on here that you need or deserve.

[travrosty]

once the cherry picking begins on what to allow and what not to allow, people will try to figure out how to get in good with the moderator, then it goes from there. (i am not saying this moderator can be bought), but others have been) we have seen it on other sites.

if someone slanders, then sue that person. period. otherwise it gets to a point where preferred speech is allowed, and the stuff that some people dont like to hear is not allowed. thats bad news. you cant get two sides of a story if one side is banned. if someone wants the moderator to decide what is slander and libel and what isnt, then we have created a sticky wicket. the moderator should need to have a law degree to moderate. i think the person that complained either didnt read the forum rules or thought they shouldnt apply to him? its right there in black and white and if he doesnt like it, there are the north korea sites out there that some of us have tried, and its no fun.