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Old 05-18-2013, 03:19 PM
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It wasn't done playfully... a lot of people were complaining about him... that's why it happened.



He's asking our opinion because he's not sure he's doing the right thing, and in fact, he isn't.
He did ask for opinions, most folks agreed with him. How can you blatantly state he isn't doing the right thing as a fact. Isn't that your opinion??
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:05 PM
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He did ask for opinions, most folks agreed with him. How can you blatantly state he isn't doing the right thing as a fact. Isn't that your opinion??
You're right, it is an opinion. I shouldn't have used the expression, "in fact" - would have been better off with "which" - but beyond the semantics, the larger meaning of the sentence remains.
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:12 PM
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Leon did the EXACT right thing here, no questions about it, IMHO.
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:30 PM
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I think there's a large difference between flat-out accusing someone of doing something, and opening a discussion about things that they think may be questionable..

Aside from that though...

"Fair comment on a matter of public interest: arguments made with an honest belief in their soundness on a matter of public interest are defendable against a defamation claim, even if such arguments are logically unsound; if a reasonable person could honestly entertain such an opinion, the statement is protected."

My belief is that comments made on THIS forum, about the hobby and/or anyone involved within the hobby(whether ultimately true or not, as long as they are speculatively legitimate), are made with the hobby's best interest in mind..

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:35 PM
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This is the best egalitarian board of its’ kind around. Tolerates all to keep the common peace and Leon doesn’t even have to pull out a UZI(T) with a quarter next to it.

And, Cy, how do you know what “most” people think about Adrian? No poll, no empirical evidence. Maybe some largemouth bass. He threw a large stone into a sometimes stagnant pond and as far as I know every guppy responded and adapted.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:26 PM
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And, Cy, how do you know what “most” people think about Adrian? No poll, no empirical evidence. Maybe some largemouth bass. He threw a large stone into a sometimes stagnant pond and as far as I know every guppy responded and adapted.
Paul, my friend, please don't misquote me. I never said "most" so I don't know where that came from. I wrote that "a lot" of people complained about Adrian, which was true.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:34 PM
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I like Adrian. He grows on you after awhile
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:29 AM
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I like Adrian. He grows on you after awhile
I like Adrian also. I think enthusiasm is great for the hobby.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:30 PM
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Paul, my friend, please don't misquote me. I never said "most" so I don't know where that came from. I wrote that "a lot" of people complained about Adrian, which was true.
Cy: Bro', My bad. I was just anxious about the Knicks chances tonight. And NOW, they are losing at halftime. I had a Gone Fishin' sign on my front door when I wrote that. No bad blood among fish here, just cartilage. Let's all keep the faith.
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Since free speech has been part of the discussion in this thread, are you guys aware that the Yankees have taken a simple rule prohibiting foul language and indecent clothing and made it into a free speech issue?

On the surface, I can't see anyone objecting to such a rule. I don't. However, I do object to their making it into a free speech issue. This appears on the Yankees website, in Yankee publications, and even on the back of some Yankee tickets:

"Ticket holders acknowledge and agree that the Yankees' ban on foul/abusive language and obscene/indecent clothing does not violate their right to free speech . . . In addition, ticket holders further acknowledge and agree that by entering Yankee Stadium, they . . . waive, to the fullest extent that they may legally and effectively do so, any objection they may now or hereafter have to such ban and the penalties that the Yankees may impose for any violation of the same."

What's up with the Yankees' heavy-handed, holier-than-thou attitude toward their customers. Why can't they just say that foul language and obscene clothing will not be tolerated, and leave it at that? Why make it a free speech issue?

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Great thread-thanks, Cy and Clayton, for distracting me from my impending REA defeats, unless one of you is responsible for them.
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Great thread-thanks, Cy and Clayton, for distracting me from my impending REA defeats, unless one of you is responsible for them.
Haha- not me, I'm broke (otherwise I'd be at the California show right now).

Sincerely, Clayton
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At least you won't be kicked off this board for complete and utter bullshit reasons. You can speak your mind and as stated earlier "not run like a Korean dictatorship".

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