Poll: Would You Make This Trade For a Ruth RC?

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

VCP on the Babe Ruth in a '1' shows that it sold in REA in 2011 for $15,000. Just the Jordan alone in a PSA 10 is around $10,000. Throw in the Koufax and you are at $13,000. There is no way in hell I would make that trade!

True, Bobby. But perhaps the 2011 sale is dated? What are your thoughts regarding the more recent sales of the SGC 10 example; it sold twice last year for 44k and I believe the subsequent sale was 39k.

[conor912]

No way. Values aside, that's too much awesome stuff to give up.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by conor912

No way. Values aside, that's too much awesome stuff to give up.

Some good points made here. I am retracting my vote and going back up on the fence. I suppose it depends on how largely you want to let money affect your decision. The greater long term investment is the Ruth, though you have to decide if you are willing to give up 27 HOFers to get one.

[bobbyw8469]

Count me in the negative. Some of the cards he is giving up will increase as well. Jordan is an iconic card that should go up as well, that if he has in a PSA 10, then he is holding onto something special there. I just think he should stand pat.

[Orioles1954]

I think the Ruth card is pretty bland and it depicts him as a member of the Red Sox. Don't forget that the 1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan card has mega potential too. It could be argued that he has more of a global appeal than Ruth. I would consign the cards, buy the Ruth outright and have some more $$$ to spend.

[Big Ben]

Can you counter offer at this juncture? I think I would either pull the Koufax or see if the guy will kick in a couple of cards with the Ruth.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Don't forget that the 1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan card has mega potential too.

I dunno. I think at some point the Jordan Fleer card is going to collapse (or at least decline) in value because of how many of them are out there. PSA alone is showing over 13,000 on the population report and 160 PSA "10" cards. There are also undoubtedly lots of Fleer Jordan cards that have yet to be graded, considering it is only a 25-year-old card.

[EvilKing00]

any decision on your trade?

[Zone91]

Call the guy I sent you his # in a private message he is very trust worthy!!! He will find you one at a much better price. I bet you he can also get you top dollar for your cards as well .

Post # 6

[Moonlight Graham]

Matt, make the trade-you'll kick yourself if you don't. That Ruth card just keeps gaining value, whereas you may not do as well selling off your cards individually.

[4815162342]

Do not make that trade! Consign the prewar cards to B&L/Goodwin/Sterling/LOTG/etc., and the postwar and modern to Probstein/JustCollect/etc. Then after you dive in and swim around in cash Scrooge McDuck style, find a nice Ruth rookie at auction.

[Zone91]

Cash talks big time sell your cards and you will see when you show a guy 15k in 100$ bills he will give you a graded 1 with a smile....but at least you will be smiling to!!!!

Post # 8

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Cash talks big time sell your cards and you will see when you show a guy 15k in 100$ bills he will give you a graded 1 with a smile....but at least you will be smiling to!!!!

Post # 8

I hear you loud and clear on that, and that is actually how I acquired much of my collection. May very well explore those waters now with this card I am seeking, as opposed to letting the recent sales of the SGC example at Legendary and Memory Lane (at least I believe it was there off-hand without consulting VCP) set the bar.

[bobbyw8469]

23. 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan BGS 9.5/PSA 10 $4,000

I've got the Jordan rookie in a PSA 10 at $9,000-$10,000.

[Gradedcardman]

Sell a good group of them and just buy one out. If you were trading for your collection and felt good about the trade then sure. However you mentioned appreciation in value. This leads me to believe this is part personal and financial. For that reason I would tell you to not trade and sell enough to buy one.

[Moonlight Graham]

Matt, can you post a picture of the Ruth that's up for grabs?

[MattyC]

Hi Moonlight,

Would rather not throw another's card up there and instead just get the very valuable feedback from you guys on the give up/get balance. Suffice it to say here it has very nice eye appeal (at least to these eyes) but is definitely a 1 POOR card. Accurately graded in other words, no chance of a bump.

By the way how amazing is this board, where instead of just ringing up the handful of friends one has (if any, lol) that collect, one can post here and get so many educated opinions from fellow collectors? The internet can suck in so many ways, but this is definitely a pebble on the good side of the scale.

[smtjoy]

While I would make the trade if its a very strong Ruth 1. Otherwise I would sell as has been stated and then wait for the right one, they do pop up a few times a year. I would put the value depending on how it looks from $25,000 to $40,000.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I've got the Jordan rookie in a PSA 10 at $9,000-$10,000.

Very true, but I was assuming it was in a BGS 9.5 holder..

[Cardboard Junkie]

I would trade.

[Jewish-collector]

Make it a Baltimore News Ruth PSA 1 instead and I would say hell yeah.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Make it a Baltimore News Ruth PSA 1 instead and I would say hell yeah.

+1

[JollyElm]

I have another angle for you. Did you discuss a selling price for the Ruth card with him? Since you have so many great cards in that trade list, maybe you can talk him into selling it to you for a 'fair' price. That way you could sell some of your incredibly valuable cards to generate the necessary funds and buy it outright. The end result would be that you'd get the Ruth PLUS you'll hold onto a bunch of your original cards.

[MattyC]

Basically we're saying the Ruth is priced at 30k, and these cards would net that in sales. Sure, I could sub out a card from the list and substitute cash. The cards are available to see in my sigline's link, as I have begun to scan my collection; point being many are high end for the grade, take the Koufax's centering for example, so the earlier approximation of 25-28 is just about right when factoring in how a few will do better than VCP avg. Of course there are the PayPal or consignor fees to weigh in as well. Upshot is the list should net around 30k = the Ruth.

[Zone91]

MattyC

I have also changed my view make the trade!!! Is it graded by SGC/PSA/BVG? That would factor in a lot for me if it was graded or not....if it was not graded I would pass no matter what...but that is me.

Post #14

[EvilKing00]

wow very hard call here, do you have a scan of the ruth u can post?

[RCMcKenzie]

I voted for the Ruth.

I could see where a Dealer might want the portfolio of high grade cards to spread out risk, speculate, wheel and deal.

I have several of the cards in the list sitting around in boxes in vg/e. Brett, Winfield, Henderson, etc.

I do not own a Ruth rookie.

Also, if you ever need to cash out, it seems like it would be easy to unload the Ruth in a few hours. Just my .02

[Mick_7]

As long as the Ruth has great eye appeal, pull the trigger!