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Old 05-15-2013, 05:41 AM
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:47 AM
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From my account, ''Important: To expedite shipment (as appreciation of your established loyalty), this invoice will be shipped on Open Account, without waiting to confirm payment. Please allow 7-14 days to receive the items you won. If you have not already paid, please visit MyOrders to help ensure expedited shipping on qualified invoices in the future.''


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I have this deal too, and received my winnings two days ago.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:04 AM
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lol..I spend ALOT of money with them every year, and even I don't have that kind of deal!! Isn't that what got Mastro in trouble?
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:08 AM
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lol..I spend ALOT of money with them every year, and even I don't have that kind of deal!! Isn't that what got Mastro in trouble?
No, stealing from bidders, shill bidding, using fake accounts to bid, etc. caused his problems.

Woops -- and Dougie's problems too. (Hi Doug!)

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Old 05-15-2013, 06:39 AM
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I paid via e-check the day I received the invoice (Sunday after the auction ended), and was happy to see they shipped it last Thursday via Fedex ground. It got to me in Boston yesterday.

So it seems like there is little consistency in their shipping policies, since I have had experiences very similar to Jeff's in the past.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:29 AM
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''The Auctioneer, its affiliates, or their employees consign items to be sold in the Auction, and may bid on those lots or any other lots. Auctioneer or affiliates expressly reserve the right to modify any such bids at any time prior to the hammer based upon data made known to the Auctioneer or its affiliates. The Auctioneer may extend advances, guarantees, or loans to certain consignors.''

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They should call that rule "permission to screw the bidder" but since I am barred from their auctions for being quoted in an internet story, by Pete Nash, that exposed them, I guess I do not have to worry about being screwed.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:45 AM
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I'm pleased with this but not so much with Rule #21!

''The Auctioneer, its affiliates, or their employees consign items to be sold in the Auction, and may bid on those lots or any other lots. Auctioneer or affiliates expressly reserve the right to modify any such bids at any time prior to the hammer based upon data made known to the Auctioneer or its affiliates. The Auctioneer may extend advances, guarantees, or loans to certain consignors.''

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If Bill Mastro had a rule like this, he might not be headed to jail.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:53 AM
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If Bill Mastro had a rule like this, he might not be headed to jail.
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Bill Mastro committed all sorts of fraud beyond anything contained in a rule like this. Luckily Bill has found God and with his trusty priest beside him will hope to avoid prison. Unfortunately for him, a federal judge feels that his crimes do not warrant a maximum 30 month sentence.

Should anyone wish to write victim letters to the judge to be read in conjunction with Mastro's sentencing, please feel free to contact me. I assure you Bill will have a zillion letters attesting to the opposite: that he is generous, charitable, has a calm temperament, saves the whales, washes the feet of lepers, etc. You may want the judge, instead, to learn the truth about what this man is (Doug too, after he is convicted).
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Bill Mastro committed all sorts of fraud beyond anything contained in a rule like this. Luckily Bill has found God and with his trusty priest beside him will hope to avoid prison. Unfortunately for him, a federal judge feels that his crimes do not warrant a maximum 30 month sentence.

Should anyone wish to write victim letters to the judge to be read in conjunction with Mastro's sentencing, please feel free to contact me. I assure you Bill will have a zillion letters attesting to the opposite: that he is generous, charitable, has a calm temperament, saves the whales, washes the feet of lepers, etc. You may want the judge, instead, to learn the truth about what this man is (Doug too, after he is convicted).
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:09 AM
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LOL

Somehow I don't think that Bill or Doug agree with that sentiment.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:37 AM
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Didn't it used to be that Heritage had terms where the house could bid on the card up to one week before the auction closed, but not past then?

At any rate, they sure are getting a lot of consignments... their spring auction was loaded. I like Heritage, I really do, but the terms just make me wonder...
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:12 AM
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Had a wonderful conversation with Heritage customer service just now; despite receiving my wire 10 days ago, Heritage has not yet shipped out my package. However, all packages are shipped out in 7-10 business days. The nice Heritage rep also told me there is no such way to expedite shipping of orders.

Here's a tip to Chris Ivy: spend less time with lawyers trying to legally shill bid your customers and more time on customer service.
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At any rate, they sure are getting a lot of consignments... their spring auction was loaded. I like Heritage, I really do, but the terms just make me wonder...
Makes perfect sense to me as a potential consignor. Where would you rather have a good item selling: a place like REA that swears on a stack of bibles that it does not ever bid for itself or on anything, or a place like Heritage where they tell you right up front they're gonna run up the sales if there is something falling through the cracks? I'd opt for the run-up-the-sales approach every time as a consignor just in case. Not saying I like their policy, just that I can see it as a selling point to a consignor.
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