FRAUF ALERT!!! beware of dropthepuck20 on ebay

[sportscollector]

yes one of the packs had Montana rookie on the back. we should expose this guy. one of the packs had art monk and Montana on the back and that lowlife scammer told me it was a legit box I believed him he had perfect feedback for selling unopened packs so I bought the box. I would of never knowen if the box said 1981 on the bottom

[buymycards]

So why are we talking about 1980's football cards? Isn't this a pre-war baseball card forum?

Good God.

[peterose4hof]

A true "scammer" would search the packs and take out the ones with Montana on the back/front (and in the middle too for that matter).

It could be an honest mistake. He probably bought it from someone and didn't pay attention to the bottom of the box.

To me, the unsearched packs still have quite a bit of value, regardless of what box they are in. You have every right to ask for a refund, but this isn't nearly as egregious as selling searched packs.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by buymycards

So why are we talking about 1980's football cards? Isn't this a pre-war baseball card forum?

Good God.

... and yes, this doesn't belong in this forum.

[sportscollector]

but the packs with the Montana on the back and monk on the front could be fake besides have been put in their to make the fraud look good

[sportscollector]

I am afraid if I send him back the box he will not refund my money. I am just so pissed off because he told me it was an orginal box. I spent over $1200.00

[cubsfan-budman]

just open a case with paypal dude.

[steve B]

I found the listing, 14 packs with stars showing and you're worried about the outside box?

It's probably a box made by a dealer in 84. Go through a few rack cases, pull out all the stars showing and store them in a box. Since it was storage they didn't care what box they used.

If you get a 1984 price guide I'll bet all the packs have a card showing that was better than a common then.

It was later, but a very low end salvage/closeout retailer near me had thousands of 91 donruss rack packs in about 93 or so. I only bought a few, but there were other guys sorting throught the pile who bought 5-6 boxes full of packs with stars showing. All neatly packed into boxes. One guy had 2 entire boxes with Ryan showing.

Steve B

[Seattle799]

"FRAUF" sounds German...

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

just open a case with paypal dude.

The first move should be to contact the seller and explain the problem. Give the seller a chance to make things right.

[D. Bergin]

Packs seem fine. Nobody gives a refund without receiving the items back first.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sportscollector

but the packs with the Montana on the back and monk on the front could be fake besides have been put in their to make the fraud look good

I just deleted your post (identical to this thread's first post) in another thread about something completely different, started by another member. Posting that is against the rules (and just wrong) so please refrain from it in the future. This thread itself is in the wrong forum but that can be overlooked on the first post or three, of a new member. It's always good to point out bad stuff but please do it properly. thanks

[pepis]

John,
what you have there is 1981 racks in an 1984 box that doesn't mean is fake,
just that for whatever reason he replaced the cardboard box the seller is an
ok seller, but if you don't trust him simply open a case with paypal if you did
used them and when you send it back use signature confirmation,
i'm pretty sure it will be easy to resolved, not necessary to use a fraud alert
for this simply ask for help.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by sportscollector

yes one of the packs had Montana rookie on the back. we should expose this guy. one of the packs had art monk and Montana on the back and that lowlife scammer told me it was a legit box I believed him he had perfect feedback for selling unopened packs so I bought the box. I would of never knowen if the box said 1981 on the bottom

So let me get this straight. He has perfect feedback and he offered you a full refund if you return the packs but you are afraid that you'll be "scammed" again? Sorry but that's the refunds work on eBay or anywhere for that matter. Also, it sounds more like an honest mistake. Send the package back and keep track of all communications with this seller. I'd be surprised if you didn't get your refund. Seems quite straight-forward. Even eBay couldn't screw this up.

p.s. Doesn't the Buyer Protect Plan protect you? I'm assuming you paid with PayPal.