t206 Joe Doyle Error on eBay

[thehoodedcoder]

hi,

well. that leads me to this question:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=168528

what is the difference between an altered card and one that shows evidence of alteration.

it sounds like the first one, is that the card is definitely altered and the second one is when they can not concretely show that it is altered or not but it may be?

kevin

[thehoodedcoder]

hi,

i have some more information pertaining this.

lets list some of the facts:

• firstly, the person selling the card goes by the name of Scott. this lines up with the name of the person on the mr.t206 user id and as Leon said, it is undoubtably the same person.
  
• the listing said it is a 1910 t206 doyleny natl. there was no mention what so ever of the fact it may be a reprint, or a fake, fraud etc.
  
• in contacting this person on ebay, they had told me the same story that is in the auction listing.
  
• i had asked that if i was unsatisified with the card if i would be able to return it to them for a refund and he agreed to do so.
  
• the person claimed to not be a collector. their username is "toppsbaseballcards"
  
• the card did in fact have a bid on it. the item had a bid of 999.00 from a user with a feedback score of 7. that user had 100 percent of the items bid with userid "toppsbaseballcards". unfortunately i was unable to save a picture of this.
  
• they claimed to have gotten the card at an estate auction with 10 other cards a few months back.
  
• when i expressed interest, this person gave me a phone number. i dialed that number and got the generic 'this person has a voice mailbox which has not been setup yet' message, which to me sounds like the phone number was intentionally setup to be a fake number you will never be able to reach someone on again after a sale kind of thing.
  
• the seller never gave me a name of the person who he claimed to have spoken with, even though i directly asked him for this piece of information.
  
• i called sgc around 9:30ish/10:00am this morning as i am certian the rest of you did. they said they had a slew of other calls already and confirmed that they never made a phone call to the person.

you are all about think i am crazy after you read the next sentance:
so, after all of this.....i bought the card anyway....with my credit card(of course) for an undisclosed amount. ok bought is a strong word because it i am undecided if i will keep the card.

so after alll is said above, i think an explanation on a few things is in order:
1) did you in fact pump your own auction on ebay, on this forum as if you were not the same person, as Leon pointed out?
2) did you have someone shill your auction on ebay?
3) do you think i am going to actually keep it if it is not real?
4) why did you say that you do not collect cards and how do you explain your ebay user name? how do you explain that you are also on this forum?
5) whose phone number did you give me?

Kevin

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by mr.t206

Went to the show today and I must say it was better than last years. Spoke to Bill Huggins, bougt a few t206's( Cobb red and green portrait and few southern leaguers ) dropped off a few cards to sgc to be graded. All in all worth the drive

Yeah I bet it was worth the drive.

[Leon]

FYI, Mr.tT206 registered as Scott Nor.ris (without the period in his last name) and his area code he gave is 440.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Leon

FYI, Mr.tT206 registered as Scott Nor.ris (without the period in his last name) and his area code he gave is 440.

the name on the invoice was Carrie Gazso. i presume Scott Gazso, but i seriously doubt it. the resistered email is locatable in google and links to a mylife account which states the person is 38 years old.

the number given via ebay was a 440 number. the number on the invoice was a 216 number. the mailing address on the paypal invoice, invoice number 4 was from parma ohio.

at this point, i would simply like to hear from the person on this board to talk about what is going on.

kevin

[Craig M]

hey kevin,

omg

craig

[steve B]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

[*]when i expressed interest, this person gave me a phone number. i dialed that number and got the generic 'this person has a voice mailbox which has not been setup yet' message, which to me sounds like the phone number was intentionally setup to be a fake number you will never be able to reach someone on again after a sale kind of thing.

That's about the only thing I'd be ok with. It's a standard message from some of the cable/internet/phone bundles if you don't setup the voicemail. I know somone who's had internet phone for about a year and still hasn't set it up.

Steve B

[thehoodedcoder]

there are ways to setup phone numbers on the fly with region specific phone numbers or to easily hack into these unsecured phone accounts. you see it at times with web hosting fraud. they provide a phone number, the hosting automation software can do phone/pin calling to ensure the phone is in the local region from the persons billing information and the ip netblock geographical location.

i fully expect that it is not the real phone number. they said they were not home but that if i called they could be reached at that number.....which they never were, even as they were actively emailing me via ebay.


kevin

[thehoodedcoder]

ok. the plot thickens....

im hesitant to even post this because i can't be sure and i don't want to slander someone in correctly....

but he may actually be a registered sex offender:

http://www.homefacts.com/offenders/O...y/Parma-6.html

if that is the case it makes him awefully easy to find LOL.

the registered address is only 1.5 miles from the billing address on the invoice.

kevin

[Cardboard Junkie]

I wonder if he will surface on this board...ever again?

[thehoodedcoder]

much like a train wreck... who can't watch?

he will at least return to look at the thread to see what is happening. it is human nature.

kevin

[thehoodedcoder]

i was just revisiting this. i found out just a tid bit more...

it looks like he raped a juvenile: http://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderd...AgencyID=55149

how terrible.

kevin