t206 Joe Doyle Error on eBay

[Craig M]

The seller states that he received a call from SGC about the card.

Would SGC answer any questions about this particular card if a person called them?

[mr.t206]

Actually, Saw this card at the strongsville show last month in Strongsville, Ohio. The card didn't look to be a rebacked card nor reprint for that matter. I've been trying to buy the card off this guy ever since. It looked very good to me. As far as sgc, they didn't check off altered or counterfeit on their ticket. It says evidence of alteration, but who am I to say one way or the other. It looks like the auction was ended. I'm telling you fellas the card looked good in person. Also, I've sent many cards into sgc. They (sgc) will not grade any card that has any form of residue on it. Idk, just my thoughts

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by mr.t206

Actually, Saw this card at the strongsville show last month in Strongsville, Ohio. The card didn't look to be a rebacked card nor reprint for that matter. I've been trying to buy the card off this guy ever since. It looked very good to me. As far as sgc, they didn't check off altered or counterfeit on their ticket. It says evidence of alteration, but who am I to say one way or the other. It looks like the auction was ended. I'm telling you fellas the card looked good in person. Also, I've sent many cards into sgc. They (sgc) will not grade any card that has any form of residue on it. Idk, just my thoughts

A lot of times though SGC(or PSA for that matter) will make some exceptions for cards worth in excess of $100,000.

[jp1216]

Seller's only other feedback is a '52 Mantle Reprint he bought in March. Must be his next work in progress.
He questions fake cards from seller's with low feedback - all in Cleveland. All of his posts are about possible fakes.
Hmmm.

[steve B]

My guess is that it's a normal and genuine Doyle that's had the tiny flake showing "nat'l" added. Maybe with some shellac to help hold it in place. And perhaps some color in that corner as well.

The shellac would be done after the damage, since something has colored the cardboard. Where the surface is missing.

Steve B

[Bridwell]

Steve B, you make sense. That's what it looks like. A clever alteration.

[thehoodedcoder]

hi,

well. that leads me to this question:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=168528

what is the difference between an altered card and one that shows evidence of alteration.

it sounds like the first one, is that the card is definitely altered and the second one is when they can not concretely show that it is altered or not but it may be?

kevin

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mr.t206

Actually, Saw this card at the strongsville show last month in Strongsville, Ohio. The card didn't look to be a rebacked card nor reprint for that matter. I've been trying to buy the card off this guy ever since. It looked very good to me. As far as sgc, they didn't check off altered or counterfeit on their ticket. It says evidence of alteration, but who am I to say one way or the other. It looks like the auction was ended. I'm telling you fellas the card looked good in person. Also, I've sent many cards into sgc. They (sgc) will not grade any card that has any form of residue on it. Idk, just my thoughts

Why are you saying this when you own the card? Did you have to go to the show to pull it out of your pocket and look at it? Or am I not reading something correctly?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=168291


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[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Leon

Why are you saying this when you own the card? Did you have to go to the show to pull it out of your pocket and look at it? Or am I not reading something correctly?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=168291


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he said he was trying to buy the card.

what makes you think he is the one who owns the card other than what he stated? you sound pretty confident he is the one who is ebaying the card?

edit* i see now. didn't see the thread.

kevin

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

he said he was trying to buy the card.

what makes you think he is the one who owns the card other than what he stated? you sound pretty confident he is the one who is ebaying the card?

kevin

Originally Posted by mr.t206

I submitted my 1910 Piedmont 350 subjects Joe Doyle Natl to sgc to be graded. Sgc sent the card back and said it was altered due to excessive paper loss?? The card/ tag they sent back said it was not trimmed, wasn't altered, wasn't counterfit, so why not slab it? I figured Id ask some of you more seasoned collectors for your opinions? I'm not sure how to upload pics but I can send them via email if someone wanted to see them. When I spoke to sgc they said the card was authentic but evidence of alteration due to paper loss.

Usually when someone uses the words I and My, people will generally assume that said person owns the card.

[Sean]

Kevin, read the thread from a previous post attached above.

Never mind, you found it while I was typing.

[thehoodedcoder]

hi,

yea. i didn't see it before.

id like to hear the story for certian.

kevin