1967 Panini Boxing- Valida Back: Image Needed

[Exhibitman]

Well, here's a few more fun ones for you, Dan:

Shindana Games Ali:



Israeli issue:

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Thanks for the thought Adam. I've got the Afro-American History-Mystery issue covered, added the one from Israel too after you posted it in your website-connected image library--but have that asterisked for now (along with certain others in the master checklist so designated) where its only weakness in being included appears to be some lack of supportive documentation that it absolutely is a "card" rather than possibly being a "paper" collectible. How and in what manner it was originally issued, or by whom and through what venue, are lacking at this time it seems. I don't go by what size or stock something happens to be; globally cards are and have been produced that are judged by the methods and standards of the country in which they originate, not in any way necessarily related to our own country's geocentric standards of what something has to be like in order to be considered a true "card." When you are in Rome, you do as the Romans do; when you wish to explore what boxing 'card issues' had been produced in a different country or global region, you ought to take the time to first research and understand that country's own accepted standards for what they consider to be a 'card' leaving your own American hobby definitions and center-of-the-world prejudices behind. If a Roman normally considers something a card and others part of the Roman culture have always done so too, then its a Roman Card and we should accept it as being so. If Swedish nationals themselves had an established past history of freeing a Hemmets #23 Clay from its 4-in-1 sheet and collecting it as a single (just as they were accustomed to doing in many other unrelated but similar cases going back to the 1940s & '50s), then the Swedish #23 Clay as a single is a legitimate Swedish single-card, too, regardless of the arguments to the contrary by various American collectors. So, I'm not ruling out the Israel paper issue of Clay as not being a card either. It'd be nice to at least encounter some other example of another personality matching the Clay, better yet to know how it was issued and whether or not persons IN Israel themselves actually considered it a "card" or a "paper collectible." Wish we had more to go on.

We here, too, have had a couple of Ali card issues that go completely against the grain of what stock, type of printing, and manner of distribution is usually expected according to some of those argumentative 'standards':

There's one from the inside back-cover of the old "Fight Fever" US boxing magazine. It was absolutely meant to be cut out and collected as a card and said as much. Another came from the outside back-cover of an older issue of "CrawDaddy" US magazine. That magazine also directed that the Ali card should be cut out and saved as a "wallet-photo card." So there you go...

Just pulled the Ali card cuts mentioned above out, and I spoke on one without checking it first. It wasn't a 'Fight Fever' boxing magazine that had it; it was a 'Fight Beat' issue. I'm going to post its scan along with the CraDaddy card cut and some others...

[Exhibitman]

Dan, the Israeli Ali is from a set of sports and entertainment personalities that were meant to be glued into an album. Here are some of the others:

Chaim Topol



Mick Jagger:



Mordecai Shpigler [soccer]



Pele



Yaakov Hodorov [soccer]



Esther Schachamarov [track]

[Box-Cards]

Nice to clear it up that it was meant to go in an album, thus it can further be properly designated Master Checklist wise as being a categorized 'album card.'

Thanks, Adam. Perhaps you can provide a bit more, please: While you mention considering it to be from the late 1960s, no exact year within that decade being obviously not yet available--and if you possess or have access to info regarding the album itself, does it credit anywhere who or what company produced this series or issued the album? Did it mention what the title of the album itself was, or give a name for the specific series related to its cards?

This type background information is what the Review is striving to include.


Here's the Ali 'Fight Beat' and "CrawDaddy"...

Plus two (pre-Hemmets) 4-in-1 panel cards produced in Sweden right after Marciano won the title from Walcott. The backs of all panel cards within the series are one giant ad; different ads on different panels. Marciano and Walcott are the only two boxers in this particular series. Swedish nationals habitually freed the personalities and collected them in personal albums as singles. I was offered such a personal album of singles, first, but it didn't include the boxers and mainly contained strictly Swedes, organized not by their card face numbers but by professions; actors, singers, starlets, etc., none of whom I recognized. After some time and much pleading, the two 4-in-1 panels with the boxers were acquired. They were difficult to locate even in Sweden and, try as I may, I never was able to acquire duplicates.

I know modern, contemporary boxing card issues aren't a lot of people's cup of tea, but here are some examples that are tough: Unreleased KAYO test-cards of Hearns and Tyson to start. Neither Tommy or Mike would accept the offered terms allowing them to be included by Kayo in the actual set. Their test-cards were supposed to have all been destroyed.

Also, UK's Futura produced a beautiful, high quality but sparse inclusions set of "Boxing Legends." They had considered coming out afterward with a series-two based on the first set and produced (100) 9-card test-sheets with 5-boxers for that potential second set along with 4-footballers potentially for two other different upcoming Futura productions. The "Legends" follow-up set never materialized. The five boxers were: Tyson, Tunney, Dick Tiger, Teo Stevenson, and Jimmy Wilde.

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Others to come after a break from scanning and getting back to the Review...

circa 1930s-early: Sweden, "Idrottsbladets-Bildgalleri" Dempsey
Rose Marie #65 : Sweden, Dempsey
Romeo Y Juleta #28 : Dempsey
Aguilitas #785: Dempsey
circa 1931: Sweden, "Dreck Mazetti" (green tint) Dempsey
circa 1932: Sweden, "Dreck Mazetti" (b/w) Dempsey - var.
1961: Sweden, "Kalendarium-Bild #309/61 Ingo Johansson & Dempsey
1955: Sweden, "Fantomen" (The Phantom Comics)
"Ringens Mastare" (Ring Masters) #6 Dempsey
Other Ring Masters: Louis; Walcott, from amongst the singles collection

I have some full comic issues with their back-cover cards intact; 2 shown. The series ran for a number of years; its checklist is quite deep. Some singles I've seen existed with 2-holes punched along the left side border by their original collector, obviously to put them in some binder--but nothing points to any official binder having been produced specifically for this series.

As illustrated by the Louis, below, due to the way they were originally laid out then printed in the comic, singles could not possibly be uniformly cut in regards to their width. Overall sizes vary in general due to individual person's hand cuttings.

In 1955 issues, there was a strip inclusion called "Knockout Charlie" whose main character's looks were a close "knockoff" of our own Joe Palooka. Later in 1956 years' issues "Charlie" must have literally gotten "Knocked Out" and he was replaced with a "Joe Palooka" strip...exactly our all-American Joe, but with Swedish language text balloons.

I'll look for the file document that has the entire 'Ring Masters' checklist and post it for those who may be interested.