1967 Panini Boxing- Valida Back: Image Needed

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Once I can pull out certain albums stashed away there will be more to come.
Right now here is what was immediately handy:

circa 1927 Cuba: Chocolate “Baguer” - Habana #35
circa 1922 Spain: Evaristo Juncosa Panella - Barcelona #6
UK: Beagles’ Postcards 156. L
?: Boxing Silk - Dempsey
1935: Ray-O-Print (Magic Photo “Rail Card”) - Envelope/Negative/Card
2007: Linear Heavyweight Champions #9
1930-32: Sweden: Rose Marie #55- Max Schmeling
1932: Sweden: Forsberg #3- Max Schmeling

[Jerry G]

Thanks for sharing, Daniel and welcome to the forum! Really looking forward to other results of your exhaustive research.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Good stuff Dan. That Baguer is a very tough card.

The Juncosa set is, at the earliest, 1923. The Criqui card mentions his fight against Kilbane in 1923. The set can also be found with a different title (Boxe y Jiu-Jitsu) and in a purple tint, but the fronts all mirror themselves. I believe the ByJJ set also contains cards of unnamed martial artists in varying poses.

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Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Good stuff Dan. That Baguer is a very tough card.

The Juncosa set is, at the earliest, 1923. The Criqui card mentions his fight against Kilbane in 1923. The set can also be found with a different title (Boxe y Jiu-Jitsu) and in a purple tint, but the fronts all mirror themselves. I believe the ByJJ set also contains cards of unnamed martial artists in varying poses.

Appreciate the background on the Juncosa set, Arthur. I don't possess any other cards from the set but the Dempsey which speaks about his meet with carpentier on its obverse, and only mentions that 1921 date anywhere. The 1922 date was mentioned to me by Evan Jones in 1998 and I've had it databased as such ever since. I'm glad guys like you are around to help set the record straight.

[Exhibitman]

Well, here's a few more fun ones for you, Dan:

Shindana Games Ali:



Israeli issue:

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Thanks for the thought Adam. I've got the Afro-American History-Mystery issue covered, added the one from Israel too after you posted it in your website-connected image library--but have that asterisked for now (along with certain others in the master checklist so designated) where its only weakness in being included appears to be some lack of supportive documentation that it absolutely is a "card" rather than possibly being a "paper" collectible. How and in what manner it was originally issued, or by whom and through what venue, are lacking at this time it seems. I don't go by what size or stock something happens to be; globally cards are and have been produced that are judged by the methods and standards of the country in which they originate, not in any way necessarily related to our own country's geocentric standards of what something has to be like in order to be considered a true "card." When you are in Rome, you do as the Romans do; when you wish to explore what boxing 'card issues' had been produced in a different country or global region, you ought to take the time to first research and understand that country's own accepted standards for what they consider to be a 'card' leaving your own American hobby definitions and center-of-the-world prejudices behind. If a Roman normally considers something a card and others part of the Roman culture have always done so too, then its a Roman Card and we should accept it as being so. If Swedish nationals themselves had an established past history of freeing a Hemmets #23 Clay from its 4-in-1 sheet and collecting it as a single (just as they were accustomed to doing in many other unrelated but similar cases going back to the 1940s & '50s), then the Swedish #23 Clay as a single is a legitimate Swedish single-card, too, regardless of the arguments to the contrary by various American collectors. So, I'm not ruling out the Israel paper issue of Clay as not being a card either. It'd be nice to at least encounter some other example of another personality matching the Clay, better yet to know how it was issued and whether or not persons IN Israel themselves actually considered it a "card" or a "paper collectible." Wish we had more to go on.

We here, too, have had a couple of Ali card issues that go completely against the grain of what stock, type of printing, and manner of distribution is usually expected according to some of those argumentative 'standards':

There's one from the inside back-cover of the old "Fight Fever" US boxing magazine. It was absolutely meant to be cut out and collected as a card and said as much. Another came from the outside back-cover of an older issue of "CrawDaddy" US magazine. That magazine also directed that the Ali card should be cut out and saved as a "wallet-photo card." So there you go...

Just pulled the Ali card cuts mentioned above out, and I spoke on one without checking it first. It wasn't a 'Fight Fever' boxing magazine that had it; it was a 'Fight Beat' issue. I'm going to post its scan along with the CraDaddy card cut and some others...

[Exhibitman]

Dan, the Israeli Ali is from a set of sports and entertainment personalities that were meant to be glued into an album. Here are some of the others:

Chaim Topol



Mick Jagger:



Mordecai Shpigler [soccer]



Pele



Yaakov Hodorov [soccer]



Esther Schachamarov [track]

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Originally Posted by Jerry G

Thanks for sharing, Daniel and welcome to the forum! Really looking forward to other results of your exhaustive research.

Thank you, Jerry. I don't know why I waited this long to join in but I look forward to sharing whatever I have, may know, or may have learned from great other boxing guys over the years. It has motivated me to haul out my binders from the bookcases lining my small man-cave computer room cave and actually start enjoying everything anew again. Oce I get a better hang from experimenting of what way to best get better image resolution acceptance when submitting to the forum, I'll be posting more.