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Old 05-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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Default Mesh and burlap override cropping variations

The 107 CL card does have a cropping variation with the portrait. However, it pales beside the dramatic change from burlap (tan wide) to mesh (brown fine).

I would not expect any other differences in the checklists. Technically none of the checklists were double printed if you consider the cropping difference a variation. It's really an automatic variation--unlike others where Topps would correct a mistake.

I relooked at my CL3, the Yaz card with the variation on the back ("increase your score" vs "increase the scores"). The former have the fuller "B" on the cap; the latter have the clipped "B".

PSA has slowly recognized these 68 CL variations. The obvious ones are as follows:

2 (107): Burlap vs mesh
7 (518): Amer vs ML rookies
3 (192): Your vs the scores
4 (278): Copyright on back L vs R

5, 6 have cropping changes like the rest on the front. There will be some kind of difference on the back as well, again part of what happened in a new row of setting up cards.



Incidentally, the Topps Milton Bradley cards 107 CL tan wide and brown fine are no different from the regular issue counterparts. This makes sense; other than the possible borders, and of course the coloring in the Brinkman and Cox cards, the fronts of the MBs are exactly the same. Which makes sense, as Topps lifted them en bloc as a row of 11 to supply to Milton Bradley for their ill-fated (at least in terms of sales) game.

A game board alone went for over 60 on ebay a few weeks ago. Veteran toy and game dealers will tell you they have never seen the game except through an auction house.
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:48 PM
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Carlton, would the burlap/mesh variances on the 107 checklist be due to appearing on both a first series and second series sheet?
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:09 PM
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You got it.

That was also why the number of the baseball cards in the 1968 Topps Milton Bradley set was horribly incorrect at 76--it had to be a multiple of 77. To this day PSA still looks as the 107 card as a variation--even though they have graded both Brown Fine Mesh and Tan Wide Mesh "varieties". I suppose they will correct that one day.
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For the 1st series 44 different cards are printed 3 times (132), and then 66 different cards are printed 2 times (132). Within these 110 diferent cards the Kaat CL is the one printed twice to get 109 unique
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In general all checklists except the 1st series CL (excluding when the 1st series is 109 cards) are printed two different times, once on the Full sheet that precedes that series CL and once on that specific series full sheet. It was the way Topps advertised the cards coming in the next release. John

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I believe the top 2 rows of each sheet are the 44 printed 3 times




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For the 1st series 44 different cards are printed 3 times (132), and then 66 different cards are printed 2 times (132). Within these 110 diferent cards the Kaat CL is the one printed twice to get 109 unique
What make's you think the 44 card numbers were printed 3 times and the 66 cards were printed 2 times for the first series? Are you saying there are three unique sheets from the 1st series? Also, the top two rows are only 22 cards...what are the other 22 cards printed 3 times?

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The sheet above that shows up, the 55 card block would be printed twice on one half of the full 264 card sheet, then 2 rows would be printed a 3rd time

55 + 55 + 22 = 132

Then on the other half of the full sheet the other 55 cards would follow the same pattern.
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