1968 Topps Double Print Question

[ALR-bishop]

Carlton and Dave---you make my head spin

[goheels]

Not sure if Topps would have done that. I think they set their two half sheets of 132 and let er rip.

Had they done that, we would have seen all kinds of crop variations.

In the top Kaat CL there is a bigger gap between his cap and the inset circle. The TCG on the obverse is aligned differently as well. And that is just from lining up the one card differently on a separate line so the kids could have the pleasure of another checklist.

I guess my math isn't that good anymore. So we now have DPs in the 6th series...

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by goheels

Not sure if Topps would have done that. I think they set their two half sheets of 132 and let er rip.

Had they done that, we would have seen all kinds of crop variations.

In the top Kaat CL there is a bigger gap between his cap and the inset circle. The TCG on the obverse is aligned differently as well. And that is just from lining up the one card differently on a separate line so the kids could have the pleasure of another checklist.

I guess my math isn't that good anymore. So we now have DPs in the 6th series...

With the 6th series, there could have been 7 unique sheets, with no DPs. It would be interesting to see if there are other images of 68 Topps 132 card sheets around showing a different flow within the same series.

The Kaat CL is likely the DP for the first series while the 107 CL more likely appeared on sheets from both series one and two, explaining the two versions of this card. If both of these CL were double printed within the first series, there should be additional DP cards, all meaning that there should be more crop variations(which I am not aware of nor have I seen).

[goheels]

The 107 CL card does have a cropping variation with the portrait. However, it pales beside the dramatic change from burlap (tan wide) to mesh (brown fine).

I would not expect any other differences in the checklists. Technically none of the checklists were double printed if you consider the cropping difference a variation. It's really an automatic variation--unlike others where Topps would correct a mistake.

I relooked at my CL3, the Yaz card with the variation on the back ("increase your score" vs "increase the scores"). The former have the fuller "B" on the cap; the latter have the clipped "B".

PSA has slowly recognized these 68 CL variations. The obvious ones are as follows:

2 (107): Burlap vs mesh
7 (518): Amer vs ML rookies
3 (192): Your vs the scores
4 (278): Copyright on back L vs R

5, 6 have cropping changes like the rest on the front. There will be some kind of difference on the back as well, again part of what happened in a new row of setting up cards.



Incidentally, the Topps Milton Bradley cards 107 CL tan wide and brown fine are no different from the regular issue counterparts. This makes sense; other than the possible borders, and of course the coloring in the Brinkman and Cox cards, the fronts of the MBs are exactly the same. Which makes sense, as Topps lifted them en bloc as a row of 11 to supply to Milton Bradley for their ill-fated (at least in terms of sales) game.

A game board alone went for over 60 on ebay a few weeks ago. Veteran toy and game dealers will tell you they have never seen the game except through an auction house.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Carlton, would the burlap/mesh variances on the 107 checklist be due to appearing on both a first series and second series sheet?

[goheels]

You got it.

That was also why the number of the baseball cards in the 1968 Topps Milton Bradley set was horribly incorrect at 76--it had to be a multiple of 77. To this day PSA still looks as the 107 card as a variation--even though they have graded both Brown Fine Mesh and Tan Wide Mesh "varieties". I suppose they will correct that one day.

[jmoran19]

For the 1st series 44 different cards are printed 3 times (132), and then 66 different cards are printed 2 times (132). Within these 110 diferent cards the Kaat CL is the one printed twice to get 109 unique