Kobe Game Used and Goldin Auctions

[itjclarke]

Read a little more about the story. Kobe, who has given millions to his mom/parents over the years (and I suspect has bought her a house or two) supposedly offered to buy her a house so she wouldn't sell his stuff... She declined because she wanted a bigger house.

Anyone's personal feelings toward Kobe aside, but if his stuff sells at auction, it is total crap.

I know I'd feel pretty violated if anyone (Mom included) decided to get rid of my old football/baseball jerseys, or my letter jacket without my consent. I'm sure even most hardened pros have sentimental attachments to these types of items.

[glchen]

If Kobe registers for Goldin auction, and tries to win some of his stuff, would that be considered shilling?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glchen

If Kobe registers for Goldin auction, and tries to win some of his stuff, would that be considered shilling?

Only if he is the consignor or has any financial interest in it, would be my view.

[HRBAKER]

The rich and their problems, tsk tsk.

[travrosty]

either he gave the stuff to her or he didnt. if he did, to ask for it back or for her not to sell it is not right. once it belongs to someone else, they are free to do with it what they wish.

halper tried to steer his collection to someone who would put it in a museum and not sell it. he couldnt do it, because no one can promise that. once the deal is made, its not halpers anymore , or kobe's. but we will see if that deal was made between kobe and mom.

i would think mom's case is strengthened by the fact she paid for the storage locker when a guy worth hundreds of millions couldnt afford it? if it was his stuff you would think he would be paying the freight on it.

[HRBAKER]

I still think I would want a stronger indicator of title that oral assurances bf I fronted a half million quid.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by travrosty

either he gave the stuff to her or he didnt. if he did, to ask for it back or for her not to sell it is not right. once it belongs to someone else, they are free to do with it what they wish.
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I understand this rationale, but think the logic or legality of that statement is off the table when it relates to family or people we're close with.

Example, my dad gave me a ball he had signed by Mickey Mantle and his Joplin team that he got while they were playing his hometown Enid, OK team. Technically, I'm free to do what I want, to sell it, right? Yes, I am. However, my dad is a sentimental guy and envisions that ball being passed down in our family. It would hurt him deeply if I sold it. I, being a human being, who likes to think I have some empathy and understanding that not everyone lives by the same code of logic, would never sell this ball.

Rich or not, famous or not, what is happening with Kobe and his mother is sad.. as is just about anytime you need to bring legalities into a conversation relating to family.

[Jlighter]

Another wrinkle unfolds.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...put-hold-judge

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Read a little more about the story. Kobe, who has given millions to his mom/parents over the years (and I suspect has bought her a house or two) supposedly offered to buy her a house so she wouldn't sell his stuff... She declined because she wanted a bigger house.

Anyone's personal feelings toward Kobe aside, but if his stuff sells at auction, it is total crap.

I know I'd feel pretty violated if anyone (Mom included) decided to get rid of my old football/baseball jerseys, or my letter jacket without my consent. I'm sure even most hardened pros have sentimental attachments to these types of items.

lawrence taylor gave his kid his super bowl ring, and the kid subsequently sold it at auction. lawrence said 'whatever' he is free to do with it what he wants.

[drc]

No one here knows who the collection rightfully belong to. Though the article mentions custom made championship rings given to his parents, which on the face of it sound like gifts that he couldn't take back.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by drc

No one here knows who the collection rightfully belong to. Though the article mentions custom made championship rings given to his parents, which on the face of it sound like gifts that he couldn't take back.

I've got no issue with those rings.. I've got issue with her selling Kobe's HS state championship ring, his old HS gear, etc. Even if he technically gave it to them at some point... He clearly doesn't want her to sell them now. I'm not a parent yet, but if I were living in the house my kid bought for me, and had received millions from him.. I'd be decent enough to not sell his stuff if he changed his mind and wanted to keep it. Legally owned or not blah, blah.. They are family and she should listen to her son.

ADDING: I'm sure there's a lot that we'll never know, nor do I care to know, and I'm guessing Kobe has probably been a prick about something in all this. It still leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. He's bought her a house(s), he offered to buy her another house.. He wants to keep irreplaceable items from his youth. There's NO EXCUSE for her to sell at this point.. What, does he need to pay his own mom off, match Goldin's payment? Great parenting lesson there huh?

[the 'stache]

Sounds like the douchebag apple didn't fall far from the douchebag tree.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by travrosty

lawrence taylor gave his kid his super bowl ring, and the kid subsequently sold it at auction. lawrence said 'whatever' he is free to do with it what he wants.

Yeah and if LT wasn't cool with it, then it would be crap for the kid to sell it. What's your point?

It can be a crappy thing to do, even if it's well within his/her rights to do it.