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Old 05-01-2013, 08:14 PM
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It's a compilation of a bunch of sets:

1909 Piedmont
1909 Sovereign
1909 Tolstoi
1909 Hindu
etc

You get the idea...

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:12 PM
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Funny. I hadn't heard the term "white borders" in years, but as I recall that was a common term back in the 70s.
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All of the sets started out as a number only. Then in the 1940s Burdick started using letters to denote categories.
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Along these lines, my understanding is that the N in N162, for example, refers to Nineteenth Centry. Likewise, the T in T206 refers to Twentieth Century. Or is it generally felt the "T" refers to tobacco?
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:42 AM
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Along these lines, my understanding is that the N in N162, for example, refers to Nineteenth Centry. Likewise, the T in T206 refers to Twentieth Century. Or is it generally felt the "T" refers to tobacco?
Both "N" and "T" indicated tobacco. N=19th century tobacco and T=20th century tobacco.
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I think you will see early collectors referring to the T206 set as the "521" set. Not as you may think because there were 521 known subjects at the time, just because that is how it was initially catalogued by Burdick. You can see that moniker in some of the Card Collector's Bulletins that Leon occasionally posts. Before then, not sure it had a name. It was thusly described in 1937 as white border tobacco cards, with some of the same images as early caramel cards, and with several hundred examples known.

See, e.g., here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...light=bulletin
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pre burdick...I'm guessing they were called "those boring white bordered cards that I can't give away?!?!?"

Just kidding of course!!!!
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I think you will see early collectors referring to the T206 set as the "521" set. Not as you may think because there were 521 known subjects at the time, just because that is how it was initially catalogued by Burdick. You can see that moniker in some of the Card Collector's Bulletins that Leon occasionally posts. Before then, not sure it had a name. It was thusly described in 1937 as white border tobacco cards, with some of the same images as early caramel cards, and with several hundred examples known.

See, e.g., here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...light=bulletin

I believe T206 might first have been called Set Ss. by Burdick in Hobbies Magazine before The Card Collectors Bulletins started in March of 1936. If you want to read about some of the origins of modern collecting it's all right there on this board, in our Archive Center...which is the icon on the far right, in the row of icons, towards the top of each page. It is great reading for those interested in the history of our hobby. Here is what he said concerning T206; interesting what else he lumped with them too -

"Set Ss. Baseball Players (white Framed cards). Sweet Caporal, Cycle, Sovereign, Polar Bear, Old Mill and several candy and gum sets of similar designs." Burdick- Hobby Magazine March 1936

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=146010

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It's a compilation of a bunch of sets:

1909 Piedmont
1909 Sovereign
1909 Tolstoi
1909 Hindu
etc

You get the idea...

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