What is a set?

[HercDriver]

So you're saying a Master Set of 1978 Topps includes the Burger King cards and the OPCs? That would be the case if we call a T205 or T206 set a Master Set if you had all the backs. The fronts are all the same, but the different distribution sources make the backs different. I guess my point is that somewhere along the way, the definition changed.

[frankbmd]

Geno,

I think your point is valid, but

The ad backs on the T206s might be analogous to Burger King putting different promos on their cards for burgers, fries or milk shakes.

I think the more valid argument would be to compare the difference in set designation between the T206s and the T212s. Why don't we consider the 1909 150 subjects as T206-1, like the T212-1 Obaks, etc. It seems like the definition was arbitrary back then (or in Burdick's time) with sets that were contemporary, leaving the modern set definition out of the argument.

I find the Obak comparison more germane to your argument than the 78 set. Topps defined their own sets. ATC never did, we define them (or Burdick did) and obviously not all the same way.

Please accept my apology for my initial post, but it was late and I was thirsty.

By the way in the late 1930s my Dad worked for the same company in Syracuse where Burdick worked, Crouse Hinds. They made all the switches for traffic lights back then, I believe. Now there's a hobby connection that may be unique.

Cheers!

[HercDriver]

Frank --

I didn't have a problem with your post...I was thirsty too! I was just thinking out loud after a couple Fuller's ESBs. Did your Dad know Burdick? He should have asked him about it over the 'ol lunch pail!

I realize the 1978 set is a strange comparison, but I used it to make a point. Nobody would ever think of including Burger King cards in a set of 1978 Topps. But some how we include Polar Bears, Piedmonts, and Hindus in a set of 1911 Honest Long Cuts.

Just something to think about. I'm done thinking now...it's time to get my playoff beard going for the Blackhawks.

Take Care,
Geno

[Gmrson]

I feel a set is just one issue. 1978 Topps (726) has really nothing to do with OPC, Hostess or Burger King. I am fairly ignorant the the nuances of the T-206 and others but the backs could be classified as separate issues. Did a single "printer" offer these to various tobacco companies? This is similar to what MSA did with their 76-77 discs. They were offered to different companies to put their logo on the back.

One of the many great things about the hobby is that we can dictate whatever we want and how we want to collect it. Calling it a set, set with variations or a master set or Bob is basically semantics