I thought I had a tremendous find!

[r2678]

I was struck with a feeling of deja vu. A number of these autos remind me of ones that came out of Ohio in the 1980s, done by a former batboy.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Looks like the forgers have gotten worse. The Pujols and Snider are laughable

[shelly]

I dont think these where from a modern day forger. This could have been done by five year old trying to learn to write. Meaning sloppy and just plain bad.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Looks like the forgers have gotten worse. The Pujols and Snider are laughable

What about their use of "high end" cards. This isn't something I see a lot of. Some are chase cards that would sell for $20+ if they weren't defaced.

Also some of the older cards were in NRMT-MT condition, not the type you'd typically see TTM.

[shelly]

The only one I thought had a chance was the Glavin. I dont know these guys but was just comparing there autographs that where certed to those above.

[HOFAUTOS]

Originally Posted by Deertick

What about their use of "high end" cards. This isn't something I see a lot of. Some are chase cards that would sell for $20+ if they weren't defaced.

Also some of the older cards were in NRMT-MT condition, not the type you'd typically see TTM.

None of those are $20+ cards or high end cards.

The guy who has been penning these got kicked off ebay a few years ago and then moved over to Overstock auctions. I'm sure Chris has documentation about the original seller. His items are found on ebay from time to time from people who thought they got a good deal and are looking to flip.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

None of those are $20+ cards or high end cards.

The guy who has been penning these got kicked off ebay a few years ago and then moved over to Overstock auctions. I'm sure Chris has documentation about the original seller. His items are found on ebay from time to time from people who thought they got a good deal and are looking to flip.

Yeah, these weren't, but there were some 1/5, 1/10, etc in the box. You know the "Platinum super double dog dare non-refracting refractors". And there were a number of company issued autos that had low pops. I recall McCovey, Ortiz, Hamilton and some basketball hockey and football players that I wouldn't know if they introduced themselves.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Deertick

What about their use of "high end" cards. This isn't something I see a lot of. Some are chase cards that would sell for $20+ if they weren't defaced.

Also some of the older cards were in NRMT-MT condition, not the type you'd typically see TTM.

These are 5-10 cent commons at best

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

These are 5-10 cent commons at best

Brent, I am aware of that (although .50 to $5 would be more accurate ). I was speaking about some of the hundreds of others that were in the boxes. I only pulled a few examples of ones I knew were bad and some I wasn't sure of, based on the clarity of the autograph.

When I brought them back I told him that based on the ones I looked at (and the opinions of those on here):
Some were definitely authentic (5-10%) The bulk of which were company issues.
Some were likely authentic (5%) No big value to any of them
The bulk were fake (85-90%)

The rest (other sports) most likely fell into the 95/5 bad/good ratio and weren't worth looking at due to the Stinson Rule.