1940s Homestead Grays Pennant?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by lefty147

I do not think it is fake at all. That felt on that pennant looks like it is from the 1940's not the 80's. Not really sure of how big a warehouse find it was. It seems like the Philadelphia Stars and Newark Eagles turn up quite a bit. Mike

Thanks sir.....I am not really a pennant guy but it does look old .

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

Thanks sir.....I am not really a pennant guy but it does look old .

Leon,
You should take up autograph collecting, there's a lot less ambiguity there.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Leon,
You should take up autograph collecting, there's a lot less ambiguity there.

LMAO.....I was just thinking about collecting only Ruth signatures on tickets!!

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Leon

LMAO.....I was just thinking about collecting only Ruth signatures on tickets!!

Now that's funny!!

[Hankphenom]

I'm still suspicious, and would like to see some evidence these were made way back. Are they in the new pennant guide? What do pennant experts say?

[lefty147]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I'm still suspicious, and would like to see some evidence these were made way back. Are they in the new pennant guide? What do pennant experts say?

They are and were also in the first one too. Mike

[Hankphenom]

Thanks. Anyone have a repro to show as an example of those?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Thanks. Anyone have a repro to show as an example of those?

Just curious Hank. Why does there have to be a repro of these? Have you seen ones you are positive were repros? There very well could be, I don't know.

[Duluth Eskimo]

The find was in the 80's and included the NY Black Yankees, Homestead Grays, Philadelphia Stars, Newark Eagles amongst maybe one or two more. Obviously the Grays is probably the most popular. As with most "finds" condition is exmt or better on most. Every once in a long while you will find one that was sold back in the day that exhibits heavy wear, but not often. The colors, graphics, etc on these are great. For the price, I consider these one of the best pennant buys out there for a couple hundred bucks. Back in the 80's they were selling these as a group for one price.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

The find was in the 80's and included the NY Black Yankees, Homestead Grays, Philadelphia Stars, Newark Eagles amongst maybe one or two more. Obviously the Grays is probably the most popular. As with most "finds" condition is exmt or better on most. Every once in a long while you will find one that was sold back in the day that exhibits heavy wear, but not often. The colors, graphics, etc on these are great. For the price, I consider these one of the best pennant buys out there for a couple hundred bucks. Back in the 80's they were selling these as a group for one price.

Hi Jason
So is it your believe they are period but a group of them was found in the 1980s?

[Duluth Eskimo]

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[Duluth Eskimo]

Found in the 80's, but my opinion is that they are original. New old stock.

[packs]

I was watching the Black Yankees pennant. Really nice pick up.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Found in the 80's, but my opinion is that they are original. New old stock.

Thanks again.....If you ever need to know anything about an obscure pre-war type card, that almost no one cares about, I can probably help.

[jerseygary]

There is also a Brooklyn Bushwicks pennant around which uses the same stadium illustration as the Elite Giants and Black Yankees. The Bushwicks were a semi-pro team that played many games against the Negro league teams. While I have seen the black teams in both well-used and minty condition like stated above, I have only seen well-used versions of the Bushwicks which makes me think they weren't part of the "find" you're talking about. Somewhere I've seen a period photograph of a Negro league player and a Homestead Grays pennant is pinned to a wall behind him, so at least that one style was produced back in the 1940's. When I lived in Baltimore in the late 1980's I visited a collector who had an Elite Giants pennant as shown. This was before the popularity of the Negro leagues so I always assumed these were the real deal. I know they've been reprinted since, but you can usually tell they are modern-made by the difference in the typography when compared to a real one.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by jerseygary

I know they've been reprinted since, but you can usually tell they are modern-made by the difference in the typography when compared to a real one.

Just responding to this.