extra red ink card

[thehoodedcoder]

Wasnt able to get a black light to my liking yet.

I'm looking for a small flashlight style and I can't find one.

I was able to find an ultra violet one.... A green light, white light, and red light one all in one at home depot. I put it under that for the time being. Nothing drastic stood out.

Kevin

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

Wasnt able to get a black light to my liking yet.

I'm looking for a small flashlight style and I can't find one.

I was able to find an ultra violet one.... A green light, white light, and red light one all in one at home depot. I put it under that for the time being. Nothing drastic stood out.

Kevin

check ebay there are thousands of them

[thehoodedcoder]

true.

i just wanted to pick one up. like i said, my time is limited during the week. i made a shot at home depot last week and that is all i found. i like to buy stuff in person if im not 100 percent sure what i am buying

i just ordered this one off ebay. sounds like it will do the trick:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400466159713...84.m1497.l2649

kevin

[Theo_450]

You can just but a blacklight bulb for a regular lamp. Check WalMart!

[Theo_450]

This is the area that I am talking about. The lines run east north east to west south west. The rest of the image has the tell talke dots of a 50 DPI printer.

[thehoodedcoder]

ok. that is what i was saying before in a previous post. those dark sections that look like lines in your highlighted areas are partially/due to physical scratches/slits on the surface of the card.

addition/edit: what is your opinion about the ink on the uniform?

i was hoping the guy which said he saw a similiar card would link me to where that image is.


kevin

[Theo_450]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

ok. that is what i was saying before in a previous post. those dark sections that look like lines in your highlighted areas are partially/due to physical scratches/slits on the surface of the card.

addition/edit: what is your opinion about the ink on the uniform?

i was hoping the guy which said he saw a similiar card would link me to where that image is.


kevin

The ink on the uniform looks like pen work also. The ink on the face and hand do not look like pen work. I think, that a pen (felt tip or otherwise) could drag moisture across the surface and leave "scratches". Please understand that I am totally not trying to hassle you or doubt you. Just giving my humble opinion. As I already said, you like the card, and that is what counts!

As for the black lightbulb, college is in the distant past for me also, but I have found other uses for the blacklight bulb. Mood lighting never looses its appeal. It makes my wife look really tan!

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Theo_450

You can just but a blacklight bulb for a regular lamp. Check WalMart!

i want something portable so i can take it shows with me. i have no use for a blacklight lightbulb. college has been over with for a long time now. LOL.

kevin

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

Wasnt able to get a black light to my liking yet.

I'm looking for a small flashlight style and I can't find one.

I was able to find an ultra violet one.... A green light, white light, and red light one all in one at home depot. I put it under that for the time being. Nothing drastic stood out.

Kevin

Kevin, this is a no-brainer. Either provide a hi-res scan and we can tell you whether or not the red is production, or mail me the card and I'll tell you. I can accomplish this in the amount of time that it takes my eyes to focus through a loupe (plus 1 second). Not bragging - almost anyone I know who collects T206's could do the same.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Kevin, this is a no-brainer. Either provide a hi-res scan and we can tell you whether or not the red is production, or mail me the card and I'll tell you. I can accomplish this in the amount of time that it takes my eyes to focus through a loupe (plus 1 second). Not bragging - almost anyone I know who collects T206's could do the same.

im sorry that this discussion is not coming to a close fast enough for you. lol.

i didn't even reopen the thread to discussion really. i simply said...im keeping it, to provide resolution to the seller, then responded to someones inquiry.

i am doing the best with what i have. i have my best scans up, with the scanner i have. im not going out to buy a new scanner to scan this card. its just not happening. i don't have a need for one and almost don't even want the one i have, since i never use the useless printer attached to it.

i have a loupe. i have looked it. i have taken a picture of it through the loupe and uploaded it to my site. it shows almost everything you can see through the loupe.

kevin

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

im sorry that this discussion is not coming to a close fast enough for you. lol.

i didn't even reopen the thread to discussion really. i simply said...im keeping it, to provide resolution to the seller, then responded to someones inquiry.

i am doing the best with what i have. i have my best scans up, with the scanner i have. im not going out to buy a new scanner to scan this card. its just not happening. i don't have a need for one and almost don't even want the one i have, since i never use the useless printer attached to it.

i have a loupe. i have looked it. i have taken a picture of it through the loupe and uploaded it to my site. it shows almost everything you can see through the loupe.

kevin

You mis-read my intent. I re-read the thread and it appeared that you were looking for an answer for your question, and that it was taking a long time for you go get it; thus, you might be a bit frustrated.

So I provided a solution. Sounds like that is not the solution that you are looking for

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You mis-read my intent. I re-read the thread and it appeared that you were looking for an answer for your question, and that it was taking a long time for you go get it; thus, you might be a bit frustrated.

So I provided a solution. Sounds like that is not the solution that you are looking for

i am far from frustrated. i actually started this thread asking if anyone has seen any other cards similiar to it, not questioning the card itself if you recall correctly.

so this is a new one to me. i just won this auction and i am wondering who else has a similiar card to this one with a red hat. also wondering if you have any other "extra red ink cards" or any "extra ink cards"

i will handle it and continue to examine it when i have time outside of everything else i have to do...like i have been doing.

[Craig M]

Hi Kevin,

You were 100% correct when you began this thread with your title that read: extra red ink card.

This card can now take a long needed rest tucked away in your collection for many years.

Regards,

Craig

[thehoodedcoder]

i have yet to sell or trade a single card, over the course of my entire collecting time.

i have no intention to sell anything inside of the next 50 years, including this card.

cheers,
kevin

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

i have a loupe. i have looked it. i have taken a picture of it through the loupe and uploaded it to my site. it shows almost everything you can see through the loupe.

kevin

In that case, you already know the answer to your question : "yes, we've all seen examples of cards like this."

[Runscott]

Steve B -

not to hijack the thread, but I have another 'extra red ink' question and I think you missed the thread - please take a look at my thread on a 'maroon back' OBAK. Scott and John think it's extra red ink and I would like your opinion. Having the card in front of me, compared to backs of the others, it looks like a completely different color, but if it's possible that extra bright red could create maroon, I'm sure you would be the man with the answer.

[steve B]

Ok, I did a bit of comparing, and the hat area is unusal, but not as odd as I'd thought. The image being tilted made it look worse. Straightening it out helped.

Using Craigs scan and copying out the hats.



There's one of the small differences. The red hat and the card on the left are similar, the middle one is different. The dark area on the hat is one of the things I mentioned earlier, that looks like a scuff that's been colored over.
(Try it with a modern card that's on white cardboard, like an allen and Ginter. Scuff it with a bit of sandpaper then color over the scuff with a red marker. There should be a dark spot)

The card is still a puzzle to me. I think the other red lines are probably factory, but the hat has been colored with marker.

I'm glad you bought the other one showing some red. It was overpriced for the condition, but as a pair with the red hat card it might be better.

What would also be interesting would be finding out if the hat outline is related to the series. Gap on 350, no gap on 150?

Steve B

[thehoodedcoder]

It is possible that the red on the uniform is factory, but the red on the hat is not. I will throw the one from ebay under the loupe when i get it.

The red on the hat, being real is a hard pill to swallow, but what keeps me in the middle is the uniform.

I almost wonder if some or most of the cards, because of the such small amount of red, never got a red pass at all? When dealing with the printing press, waiting for everything to dry, cleaning down the press, cleaning the printing plate, then resetting up the press, then rerunning the lot took quite some time to do and the guy running the press some corners or made a mistake? Especially if it is barely even noticable.

Kevin