Setting Definitions for Rarity of Cards

[buymycards]

It doesn't matter when the card was issued. 10,000 isn't rare. Neither is 1000.

[thehoodedcoder]

Seems pretty simple to me:

https://www.google.com/#output=searc...w=1366&bih=626

Rare: "not ocurring very often".

By itself it is an "inconclusive conclusion" which someone has drawn based on other evidence which they don't present. This definition itself implies relativity and subjectivity. Often depends on your definition of the "time frame" or relative to other items similiar in nature.

For you to call something rare you must also, give the reason to what you are comparing it to, to draw that conclusion. It is rare in comparison to X.

You can call shit rare, all you want....it means nothing without the conclusion to the premise.

Kevin

[doug.goodman]

...10,000 isn't rare. Neither is 1000.

10,000 is pretty rare if 10,000,000 want it...

[HRBAKER]

Rare and not rare can also apply to the very same card. As in, "It was rare when I bought it, obviously not so much when I went to sell it."

[joeadcock]

ONLY ONE KNOWN, should be a category onto itself. Of course, there maybe a few others out there not found yet. But this would seem to be the true rare. Now of course, as stated earlier, if not too many want it, then it is not scarce.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Rare and not rare can also apply to the very same card. As in, "It was rare when I bought it, obviously not so much when I went to sell it."

rare certianly could have a time presense....but again, you just proved my point perfectly. simply stating its rare without further clarification is not enough to make an argument that something is rare. you need to provide the evidence to support the premise you are making.

your also, making a claim, then negating your claim, and that is simply a statement. people can accept a statement for what it is, when no claim is being made. if you make a claim you have to back the claim up. right?

kevin

[HRBAKER]

Kevin,
Might I suggest a class in sarcasm detection.

Jeff

[thehoodedcoder]

i took the whole thread to be sarcasim and humorous.

people have opinions that they feel trump logic and fact or fail to look at that as the first explanation to something, before giving an opinion.

you can see how silly the debate really is now right? this question would never have been posed if something thought about it before posing the debate.

i propose the debate should not exist. the arguments should be closed and the thread deleted now that we alll know what rare means.

LOL.

kevin

[HRBAKER]

I generally don't look at threads on this board through the prism of my Intermediate Logic class. Also, threads aren't generally over when one participant declares them to be. Maybe a new trend has started.

I did shave with Occam's Razor this morning.

All in good fun. Nothing wrong with a more scholarly perspective, it's just another POV.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

rare certianly could have a time presense....but again, you just proved my point perfectly. simply stating its rare without further clarification is not enough to make an argument that something is rare. you need to provide the evidence to support the premise you are making.

your also, making a claim, then negating your claim, and that is simply a statement. people can accept a statement for what it is, when no claim is being made. if you make a claim you have to back the claim up. right?

kevin

That's an easy one!

If he bought a very high grade red background E98 in say 2009 and wants to sell it now his statement is entirely true in all respects. There were very few until recently, now there are hundreds.

Steve B

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by steve B

That's an easy one!

If he bought a very high grade red background E98 in say 2009 and wants to sell it now his statement is entirely true in all respects. There were very few until recently, now there are hundreds.

Steve B

you just restated the same thing...again... then added the missing parts i have been saying need to be there, which require clarification...."now there are hundreds"

that gives definition to the rare claim. its all about surrounding context which is the point of my entire argument.

without them there, the statement that it is rare is not complete and out of context.

kevin