Toploaders?

[RobertGT]

Originally Posted by steve B

Is that a deep 3 row box? I have a couple 3 row boxes, but none of the cardsavers I've ever had fits those either. The cardsavers are taller than the box.

I'm not a big fan of the 3 row boxes, since they don't fit any of the shelves I have. But I tried a couple when the 4 row boxes came out that don't fit toploaders.

I even tried the 6 row "super shoebox" a few years ago. Not bad, but they didn't last long.


Steve B

Is is just a three-row shoebox used for normal card storage. I think I dumped some raw cards out of it and converted it into storage for 68 commons. Maybe you are using Card Saver Is? (They don't fit anywhere). I use Card Saver IIs for storage and that is what you see in the picture. They come right up to the top of the box but do not extend beyond the lip of the box. So you can put weight/other boxes on top of it without having to worry about damaging the cards.

They do get heavy - but the tradeoff is you have many more cards in there than you would if you filled the same space with top loaders.

But to each their own - everyone has their own preference and that's great. For years I was an exclusive top loader guy and much of my collection is still in them. Just recently I have been making the conversion to Card Savers for all the aforementioned reasons.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by RobertGT

Is is just a three-row shoebox used for normal card storage. I think I dumped some raw cards out of it and converted it into storage for 68 commons. Maybe you are using Card Saver Is? (They don't fit anywhere). I use Card Saver IIs for storage and that is what you see in the picture. They come right up to the top of the box but do not extend beyond the lip of the box. So you can put weight/other boxes on top of it without having to worry about damaging the cards.

They do get heavy - but the tradeoff is you have many more cards in there than you would if you filled the same space with top loaders.

But to each their own - everyone has their own preference and that's great. For years I was an exclusive top loader guy and much of my collection is still in them. Just recently I have been making the conversion to Card Savers for all the aforementioned reasons.

I wonder if I've never gotten a cardsaverII? Weird since I have almost 40 years worth of different pages and holders. Probably a good percentage of everything that's come out since about 1974. I've got maybe 6-7 different sorts of cardsaver-like holders. I'll have to check which ones I have that were too tall but narrow enough for the shoebox box.

The best/worst combination so far is a Mylar sleeve inside a toploader. Stiff and the mylar is a great archival material. Terrible since the mylar is smooth enough that it displaces enough air between itself and the toploader that it can't be removed. (Like wringing two guage blocks together for the machinists in the group) Damaged a card trying to get it out and still had to cut the holders.

Steve B

[bsuttonosu]

Originally Posted by RobertGT

Maybe you are using Card Saver Is? (They don't fit anywhere).

I believe the Card Saver 1s are the same size as the Ultra Pro graded card submission semi-regids. I use the Ultra Pro version for lots of my card storage and they fit perfectly in BCW vault boxes for graded cards. The nice thing about the vault boxes is you can have your less valuable cards in the semi-rigids to save space and your key cards graded and all fit in the same vault box. The regular size/smaller vault box fits the Card Saver 2 size and fits top loaders with team bags over them, which many multi row boxes don't. I always put team bags over my top loaders so I'm a big vault box fan.

I use the larger semi-rigids so that I can put the cards in a penny sleeve. I've never gotten a good answer on whether or not the semi-rigids, Ultra Pro or Card Saver, are acid free so I don't trust it.

[chaddurbin]

card savers bend cards too easily. I use penny sleeve with the top slice off a bit inside a toploader inside a teambag. nothing beats that for me. I don't even use the magnet touch case for modern cards I Feell the edge can be damaged
during shipping.

taping the top of the toploader is the worst, we r not animals show some class and get some teambags or graded card sleeves

[the 'stache]

I understand why people use tape, as the adhesive on team bags will sometimes give way. But if they want to do that, at least fold a piece of paper over the top of the top loader, then put the piece of tape over that with extra on both ends.

I would prefer, however, if people are going to use tape, tape over the end of the team bag. That way, a new top loader isn't ruined.

[steve B]

If it's taped right the top of the toploader gets squeezed closed. That way the card can't come out, and can't get stuck to the tape either.

Combine that with tape that won't leave the adhesive behind and it's good.

I only do that for shipping, and usually use the penny sleeve upside down too.

The ones in my collection are neither taped or bagged.

Steve B

[JollyElm]

I'm getting the distinct impression that the 'stache is obsessed with team bags.

[the 'stache]

I just like cards to be well protected