Robert Edward Auctins just signed up to be able to bid!!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Try speaking French here

Been there, done that.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Zone91

conor912

You be a shit disturber (even worse you can't even start your own topic)...us real collectors hate those types. You can add that to YOUR list!!!

You're right. I be a shit disturber.

Dave, I hope you're keeping tabs of these gems.

[Zone91]

conor912

Hey here is a idea show us some of your cards get involved!!! Now that would be a evolution in your case and not a useless revolution!!!

[joeadcock]

Agreed, the end price in REA will tend to be quite a bit higher for many of the lots. I have bid some already and will simply wait for the catalog.

The ongoing Heritage Auction has added a bit of competition in the similar time frame.

Adrian, good luck to you.

I do not want to judge what you do in terms of bidding or buying, but patience is not a bad thing. I bought(probably all of us have) some cards a few years ago(that if I had waited), I could have obtained cheaper. But it is your call. It is still a free country(at least for now).

[Zone91]

joeadcock

Good luck to you as well...I have only one card I want I am pretty sure I can win it it is not that expensive of a card...just a nice example.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Peter_Spaeth

I did negotiate on these cards most of them the dealer dropped a lot from the asking prices. For example the 1887 Old Judge was listed for 5500$ I got it for 4250$ and the Mike Mitchell was at 5000$ I believe and I got it for 2500$...I know the dealers price there stuff way high to make us think we are getting a great deal but at least I got a deal and did not pay full asking prices.

I am just saying that I have seen this act before and people end up giving up 20 percent to an auction house to sell the cards at 60-70 percent of what they paid. You have time, none of these overpriced cards are going anywhere, don't rush in.

[Zone91]

Peter_Spaeth

Will try my best to be more aware and calm.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Peter_Spaeth

Will try my best to be more aware and calm.

C'est bon.

[Zone91]

Peter_Spaeth

You see that is good french!!!

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am just saying that I have seen this act before and people end up giving up 20 percent to an auction house to sell the cards at 60-70 percent of what they paid. You have time, none of these overpriced cards are going anywhere, don't rush in.

this guy is no fun at all, impulse buys are the best!!!

edited out the jibber jabber.

[Zone91]

chaddurbin

I guess that card will be a live and learn card. Why is it so rare as people say? I was told that there are about 100 to 150 examples known compared to say the T206 Ray Demmitt with about 200 to 400 known.

[Matthew H]

You overpaid about 1500 on the Wright... Who cares though, right? Just enjoy it.

[Zone91]

Matthew H

That is what I plan on doing can't always do the right thing in life and always play safe we certainly can try to do better.

The Wright last sold for 4000$ a few years ago and I paid 4250$ so I paid 250$ to much for it not 1500$. Personally I do see cards as a investment probably never will.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Zone91

chaddurbin

I guess that card will be a live and learn card. Why is it so rare as people say? I was told that there are about 100 to 150 examples known compared to say the T206 Ray Demmitt with about 200 to 400 known.

As i recall nobody has a good explanation. That said, keep in mind itbis a common and only of value to set builders and the set while popular cant touch t206 and other sets where there will always be an influx of new buyers. So that is a recipe for declining value over time as there is less competition for each available copy.

[Shoele$$]

I have a headache already....

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Matthew H

That is what I plan on doing can't always do the right thing in life and always play safe we certainly can try to do better.

The Wright last sold for 4000$ a few years ago and I paid 4250$ so I paid 250$ to much for it not 1500$. Personally I do see cards as a investment probably never will.

Value is an opinion, but you're wrong about previous pricing... It sold for close to 3k (still a bit high) I think he might have had a hard time getting his money back had you not come along... Now he's probably eating steak

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...entoryid=15353

[HRBAKER]

[Zone91]

Matthew H

Here is the last sale on Heritage for the EXACT same card.

Link:

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...01#71067106230

Sold for 3883$. So I paid +- 400$ more over a 2 year period because it sold in 2011 on Heritage for that price.

I do my research before paying if I only saw the auction you talked about at less than 3000$ I would not have paid 4250$ for it believe me!!!

[thunderdan]

Thinking of bidding on this one. Any of you Goudey experts: does side to side look ok (i.e. not trimmed)? Those borders look pretty thin, though perfectly centered.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=24554

[Zone91]

hiyoh

There is a nice one on Ebay graded a 7 and you can make a best offer (pretty sure he can come down a LOT)...good seller as well .

Link:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Goudey-B...item43baf105aa

[wonkaticket]

Hey the more folks to this hobby the better, folks who want to spend money that’s even better. Adrian enjoy you’re collecting take a little advice if you feel it adds value.

For the rest of the guys who want to be your financial advisors tell them to worry about their money and not yours.

Nice cards and pickups.

Cheers,

John

[Zone91]

wonkaticket

Thanks!!! Will do.

You can see on page 12 that I did not overpay much for the 1887 Old Judge card last sold for 388$ in 2011 and I paid 4250$ 2 years later in 2013.

[thunderdan]

Originally Posted by Zone91

hiyoh

There is a nice one on Ebay graded a 7 and you can make a best offer (pretty sure he can come down a LOT)...good seller as well .

Link:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Goudey-B...item43baf105aa

Considering I used to own that very card, probably not. Reason I sold it in the first place was to upgrade.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Matthew H

Here is the last sale on Heritage for the EXACT same card.

Link:

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...01#71067106230

Sold for 3883$. So I paid +- 400$ more over a 2 year period because it sold in 2011 on Heritage for that price.

I do my research before paying if I only saw the auction you talked about at less than 3000$ I would not have paid 4250$ for it believe me!!!

My mistake... Wonka is right, don't let any of us tell you how to spend your money... You earned it, it's yours.

I've paid retail for a few cards that caught my eye, it's no big deal. Just enjoy yourself and try not to burn yourself out too quick.

-Matt

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by Zone91

......................... I am never one to show off I simply buy rarer more expensive cards hence I show those cards off ..................

Make up your mind, dude...............





also it seems that maybe it's an unwritten rule around here to not announce what price you paid for a card.

Maybe I've missed it all these (3) years but it seems the other big spenders normally humbly post their pickups (usually in the monthly pickup thread) without dollar signs attached and the compliments roll in anyway.

[Zone91]

tonyo

People who collect expensive cards show those cards off that does not make them a SHOW OFF you could not figure that out on your own really...that is from the book on life?

You are making me feel smarter by the minute continue writing what you write....now that's me been a SHOW OFF....hahahaha!!!

I post the prices because ANYONE can find them I simply save them time..any good writer puts references for what the write about...did you not know that!!!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Zone91

...Yes I am having a lot of fun I quite collecting coins (To many bad people and to many other bad things in that hobby)...

I'm glad there's no bad people nor bad things in this hobby! Whew!

[Zone91]

4815162342

There are as you well know but there seems to a balance of good people and bad people as for coin collectors they are mostly bad/nasty people. Grumpy old men mostly collect coins.

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by Zone91

tonyo

People who collect expensive cards show those cards off that does not make them a SHOW OFF you could not figure that out on your own really...that is from the book on life?

You are making me feel smarter by the minute continue writing what you write....now that's me been a SHOW OFF....hahahaha!!!

I post the prices because ANYONE can find them I simply save them time..any good writer puts references for what the write about...did you not know that!!!

ummm....I didn't call you a show off, simply asked you to make up your mind.

And also made a wish for humility. I love to see the cards in folks collections - I don't really care how much they cost others - I just like to look at cards. I'll check the book on life to see if it is possible to look at cards without knowing what they cost.

[Zone91]

tonyo

Lolllll!! Have a nice evening sir!!

[ngrow9]

Nevermind, not worth it.

[Jewish-collector]

Adrian - Do try to come to the National and the Net54 dinner this year. It's always nice to meet a new collector.

[Zone91]

ngrow9

Hahaha nice try to make me feel bad try again wit a better come back at least!!!!

[Zone91]

Jewish-collector

I will see what I can do I need to get a new passport done (I will get one done soon for sure). I will not bring any cards to show because of customs and security reasons. I can't say just yet because a lot can happen from here till then.

[GoldenAge50s]

There are several in this thread who are doing their best to try & belittle your purchases. It can only be one thing--They are jealous as hell!

You bought some quality cards that I only wish I could afford and I applaud you for being able to do it!

Disregard the jealous slams, whether you overpaid or not, & the snide remarks & do your thing!

[Zone91]

GoldenAge50s

Thanks sir for having the courage to state that here on the forum!!! As they say some people will just simply NEVER be happy in their there own lives how can they be happy for others....just glad I am NOT one of those poor people!!!

[barrysloate]

If my count is correct Adrian has so far posted 56 times in this thread.

[GrayGhost]

Its nice you can buy what u want. But, if u read this forum, not a lot gloat about how much they spend. Some of us on here can't even buy a 20.00 card. Is thatjealousy? YES IT IS, but I wouldn't gloat that I spent thousands here and there if I did have the money, makes other s feel lousy.

[Zone91]

barrysloate

Actually it is 56 times!!!!!!

[barrysloate]

Actually it's now 57.... and the night is still young

[Zone91]

GrayGhost

Not my intention at all I grew up poor I understand what you mean...next time out of respect I will not mention the price I paid.

[cyseymour]

First of all, let's not get all sacrosanct about the cards and prices here. We live in a free market, I think everyone is aware of price and is unafraid to discuss what things are worth. Now, whether we would choose to do that with folks outside the collecting community, it could be distasteful without being asked. I've debated whether to tell people even when asked, but inside the hobby is a different story. Everyone here is spending cash on cards - let's face it.

Adrian, did he overpay? It is a matter of opinion, really. Probably, yes. But not dramatically, and he generally bought classic cards. PSA 5 Wright, it last sold for $3850, there were two other people out there willing to pay in that range, he is not alone then. If PSA set registry guys start to jump all over the set, the price could explode, they don't care if the image is faded or whatever. Anything is possible.

Yeah, Adrian has been impulsive, but he has got the cash to burn. When I had cash, I tore through it, I was even worse than Adrian, I mean, I bought two blockbuster cards in the span of three months. Granted, I purchased them at auction, it's a little different (or a lot different), but the point being that it's easy to burn through money when you've got it.

I also smoked through $5750 buying a Whitney with Dog card. Hall of Famer? No. Rare pose? Nyet. But I love the card, so who's to really say? Adrian obviously didn't want to follow my advice and wait for the auctions, it's his prerogative. Doesn't sound like he did too badly on the Mick, that must be a hot card right now if he's gotten two offers already.

Point being, he's one of us. He's a collector, he's got his ways, there are maybe more savvy collectors out there, but we've all seen worse, and even if his style is a bit manic, he belongs on the board, he is one of us. The hobby needs new collectors, it is the only way it can grow. So welcome, Adrian, and again, congrats on the pickups. Enjoy.

[Zone91]

barrysloate

Yes it yes it is!!!!

[nolemmings]

If my count is correct Adrian has so far posted 56 times in this thread.

It can only mean one thing Barry--you're jealous as hell!!!

[Zone91]

cyseymour

Many many thanks for taking the time to write what you did!!!

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by ngrow9

So just to make sure I'm following all of this correctly, you dropped $4,000+ on a Harry Wright Old Judge that is so faded I wouldn't pay $20 for it, when you didn't even know who he was a couple days ago, on the basis it is a PSA 5, but then claim to have bought the Mantle on the basis of the card not the grade? And you dropped $2,500 on a E90 you weren't even aware of a few days ago, when you aren't even sure if it is a variation or not?

Who cares what you would buy no offense. He’s the one who bought them and he’s happy. I would bet the seller is too. So in then end your opinion on the subject doesn’t affect or even register with the two parties involved.

To all on prices while I agree that you can buy collectibles smart and within certain ranges in terms of price, if you educate yourself a bit and exercise a bit of patience. However with that said at the end of the day the bulk of this is worth what someone is willing to pay you for it. These are not things with firm regulated fixed prices.

Win some you lose some that’s the name of the collecting game. Adrian is stoked he found this hobby he’s doing his buying sprint let him enjoy it and be happy he has the interest to be so excited about a hobby we all have money tied too.

Now I do agree Adrian can post them in the pickups with the rest of jackwagons.

Sure the occasional look what I did thread is cool but lots of them can rub folks the wrong way etc. but in the end C'est la vie.

Cheers,

John

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

It can only mean one thing Barry--you're jealous as hell!!!

I have over 5800 posts and I fear Adrian will pass me a week from Tuesday.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Zone91

barrysloate

Yes it yes it is!!!!

You are catching a break as Barry has retired as the board's spelling cop.
By the way, great cards. If you like 'em it don't matter what others think.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Its nice you can buy what u want. But, if u read this forum, not a lot gloat about how much they spend. Some of us on here can't even buy a 20.00 card. Is thatjealousy? YES IT IS, but I wouldn't gloat that I spent thousands here and there if I did have the money, makes other s feel lousy.

Too soon for my pick up pic?

[GoldenAge50s]

At this rate Adrian will pass you in about an hour & a half!

(Posted the same time as your Post 147!)