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[Bored5000]

I know a couple of you guys posted examples of Brouthers' autograph from the Ron Keurajian book. When I did a google search on Brouthers' auto, the Keurajian section on Brouthers came up. Keurajian wrote that there are less than five genuine specimens of Brouthers' autograph in existence and there are no known signed photos, baseballs or baseball cards.

http://books.google.com/books?id=e3s...=0CCwQ6AEwADgK

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I know a couple of you guys posted examples of Brouthers' autograph from the Ron Keurajian book. When I did a google search on Brouthers' auto, the Keurajian section on Brouthers came up. Keurajian wrote that there are less than five genuine specimens of Brouthers' autograph in existence and there are no known signed photos, baseballs or baseball cards.

http://books.google.com/books?id=e3s...=0CCwQ6AEwADgK

I wondered about this as well. Did Ron see this ball for sale when REA put it up in 1995, and he is therefore saying it isn't real, or is he unaware of its existence? I guess we can't know.

[tazdmb]

Surprised no one has brought up the signed Hamilton and Ward Balls. Again, I believe Ron said in his book that no known signed baseballs are known to exist, at least until now (maybe)

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by tazdmb

Surprised no one has brought up the signed Hamilton and Ward Balls. Again, I believe Ron said in his book that no known signed baseballs are known to exist, at least until now (maybe)

I forgot the Hamilton, which is incredibly rare if real, but I did bring up the Ward and Frank Chance balls. Never seen any of them on single signed balls before.

[shelly]

Just remember. Hamilton defended the Kennedy papers till the day he died.

[mighty bombjack]

There is also a sweet single signed George Wright jubilee presentation ball and a Hank O'Day ball (not single, but pretty nice).

[prewarsports]

FWIW, the O'Day is real. Umpires are a different story, they would sign baseballs as a crew and give them away as presentation pieces or gifts. The Umpires signatures were there to show where the ball came from and not because of the "signatures". What I mean is that a group of Umpires (or a single Umpire) would keep game balls as souvenirs from World Series or Last Outs and write on them or sign them to show where the ball came from, so they are "signed" but mostly for presentation, not for the sake of autographing a baseball for a collector.

Players didn't really "sign" baseballs before about 1920 (or only for presentations), especially old timers without a current connection to the ball they were signing or the team involved.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by shelly

Just remember. Hamilton defended the Kennedy papers till the day he died.

One of the great scams in the autograph business,,, but at least they caught the guy and he served some serious time.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by shelly

Just remember. Hamilton defended the Kennedy papers till the day he died.

Hamilton did not defend the Kennedy papers.
but PSA's john Reznikoff sure did.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hamilton did not defend the Kennedy papers.
but PSA's john Reznikoff sure did.

and he still gets to authenticate kennedy signatures.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

I wondered about this as well. Did Ron see this ball for sale when REA put it up in 1995, and he is therefore saying it isn't real, or is he unaware of its existence? I guess we can't know.

I'd find it hard to believe Ron didn't see every signed baseball of this caliber in a major auction for the last 20 years.

Ken