Blatantly Hacked and Kudos to Rob Lifson PSA should be ashamed!

[atx840]

Dan you're such a PSA hat..er...wait you're right. Looks like PSA 8 is the new Authentic.

Good for REA.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Well Dan, it is all just opinions and you know what they say about those. On the other side of the coin, I have had a recent wake up call about my own mortality, (such is the frailty of the human condition). Knowing that my only heir will be my daughter, and she doesn't know Casey Stengal from Casey Wise, I have had a change of heart and now prefer a card to be encapsulated and graded by a TPG. And of the 3 big dogs in TPGs PSA is the best to me. Just my opinion. I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize to J. O. as I am sure I have insulted him in the past. PeaceDave. ps BTW Dan you have some fantabulous stuff for sale. VERY impressive.

[MattyC]

I'd rather send them back to PSA and have PSA make good on their policy than put them up and have REA call them trimmed. PSA does make good when they blow it like that.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I'd rather send them back to PSA and have PSA make good on their policy than put them up and have REA call them trimmed. PSA does make good when they blow it like that.

I have never heard of a collector of PSA 8 (or higher) slabs actually sending cards back to PSA because they feel they are trimmed. If PSA couldn't tell a card was trimmed BEFORE it was hidden behind plastic (and PSA are the experts), then how can a lowly collector tell AFTER it is entombed? Doesn't make sense to me

[cyseymour]

REA opined that a T206 PSA 8 Frank Chance was trimmed a few years back, and it didn't make the slightest bit of difference in the sale price. In fact, it sold for more than what those cards were typically going for back then.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2009/238.html

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I have never heard of a collector of PSA 8 (or higher) slabs actually sending cards back to PSA because they feel they are trimmed. If PSA couldn't tell a card was trimmed BEFORE it was hidden behind plastic (and PSA are the experts), then how can a lowly collector tell AFTER it is entombed? Doesn't make sense to me

It's happened; I've done it myself one time with several PSA 9s and 10s (1970s cards) I felt were trimmed/short. They concurred the cards were bad, a settlement was reached, and the cards were taken out of circulation. I guess mistakes get made but they can be corrected, at least to some extent.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by MattyC

It's happened; I've done it myself one time with several PSA 9s and 10s (1970s cards) I felt were trimmed/short. They concurred the cards were bad, a settlement was reached, and the cards were taken out of circulation. I guess mistakes get made but they can be corrected, at least to some extent.

The key thing is that when you get caught you take care of the problem quickly so that your customers keep coming back for more...or less.

Steve mentioned in another thread that it's real easy to spot trimmed cards (I assume, that's only true if the card is not in a holder). He got into the detail about how the cutting blade used 100 years ago affects the front and the back of the card. Most of us already had a sense of this, but if not - his explanation certainly explained it well. Apparently it's nothing at all like the results you get from modern blades that weren't designed like paper cutters.

So I wouldn't call it a 'mistake', although committing fraud is certainly a mistake of sorts. But if it really is simply grader ineptitude, I have to wonder why you would put a grader who isn't aware of these differences, on a $1,000+ card.

I know - everybody likes more cash.

[jhs5120]

These older labels are tricky. Whenever I see a problem with a PSA card it's always in these circa 2000-2004 slabs. I don't know if it was just one problem grader or a more relaxed mentality or they were just unaware, but it is almost always these older slabs.

It's a shame that REA accepted this consignment, I held them to the highest regard until now.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by atx840

PSA 8 is the new Authentic

Nice

+1

[drc]

Hell, it looks as if someone went at those with a rototiller.

Just a joke. No one sue me.