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[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

"This situation could have been handled better"?

There should not have been a "situation"!

Chris hasn't "shared," because Chris has nothing to share.

(And yes, it's been obvious that you're "always in Chris's corner.'

Chris does more good stuff than you have enemies on the board. And that is saying something!!

Just because I don't care for the way this one thing has been handled doesn't mean I don't appreciate what Chris has done and does. I do, a lot.

[shelly]

Leon, you must have your cowboy boots on today. You sure are kicking a-s

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Leon

Chris does more good stuff than you have enemies on the board. And that is saying something!!

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Hey, Rich. Have you shared that "tell" with H&S yet? It sure would be a shame if some collector inadvertently buys a $7k+ forgery, when a few words from you could prevent that.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hey, Rich. Have you shared that "tell" with H&S yet? It sure would be a shame if some collector inadvertently buys a $7k+ forgery, when a few words from you could prevent that.

I'm sure the above was a 'tongue in cheek' comment. H&S pays the TPA's to do a job. They did the job (authenticating the item). Revealing a 'tell' wouldn't have any effect on the validity of the TPAs' assessment.

A 'tell' is a great thing to have, but it's still a matter of the TPA looking at a signature, comparing to exemplars, and making a decision. They did that. Perhaps they screwed up, but they did the job they were paid to do, and they were chosen to do it because H&S had faith in their work.

The only thing that will affect this is the legwork/research/whatever that Chris supposedly has in his back pocket, and which I'm guessing has to do with either the ticket or the provenance, since anything related to the signature would just be an opinion.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm sure the above was a 'tongue in cheek' comment. H&S pays the TPA's to do a job. They did the job (authenticating the item). Revealing a 'tell' wouldn't have any effect on the validity of the TPAs' assessment.

No, Scott. It certainly was not "tongue in cheek."

Over and over, Rich proclaims himself to be a hobby "white knight," working tirelessly, and at much personal risk, to rid us of the forgers. He claims to have information, which, if shared with the TPAs that the major auction houses use, could all but insure the "Michigan forger" would no longer have his pieces authenticated and sold by those auction houses. Yet he keeps the information to himself.

There are two--and only two--possibilities. Either Rich has the info he alludes to, but, in not sharing with other professionals shows he is not the hero he claims to be, or, he has no information at all.

[Runscott]

Now I'm lost. I thought it was 'Chris' and 'Michigan'. Now it's 'Rich' and 'Missouri'?

I hate being baffled. Going for another cup of coffee to clear my head.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Now I'm lost. I thought it was 'Chris' and 'Michigan'. Now it's 'Rich' and 'Missouri'?

I hate being baffled. Going for another cup of coffee to clear my head.

Yeah, it's Michigan.

But both Chris and Richard seem to know who this "mystery forger" is, but neither are spilling the beans.

Ostensibly because they are afraid of some legal action.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Leon

Chris does more good stuff than you have enemies on the board. And that is saying something!!

Just because I don't care for the way this one thing has been handled doesn't mean I don't appreciate what Chris has done and does. I do, a lot.

He's got you pretty well snookered, Leon!!
But I doubt he'll be doing much, anymore.

[travrosty]

Maybe he learned that you have to have proof first, and certainly proof you are willing to show.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Maybe he learned that you have to have proof first, and certainly proof you are willing to show.

Travis, you just dont know when to stop.

[David Atkatz]

Why Shelly. Don't you think that single sentence of Travis's does a marvelous job of summing up this entire debacle of a thread?

[GrayGhost]

Why can't everyone just DROP IT and let it play out?. I swear, a bunch of kids playing in a sandbox are more civil.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Why can't everyone just DROP IT and let it play out?. I swear, a bunch of kids playing in a sandbox are more civil.

Drop this entire "situation" would be unfair to H&S, the consigner and potential buyer. What a mess this has become... very unfair to the 3 parties listed above. It really doesn't make ANYONE look good.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Why can't everyone just DROP IT and let it play out?. I swear, a bunch of kids playing in a sandbox are more civil.

I am done.