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Old 04-09-2013, 08:36 AM
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Thanks for the diagnosis Carlton! I appreciate you responding to Al's email and stopping by the thread.

Al - the link you provided with the previous exchange on this topic was awesome! There is so much knowledge in this forum and that thread was a bone with lots of meat! Delicious.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:44 AM
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Rich--I have always used SCD. Do you use both and if so which do you find most useful ?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:47 PM
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Beckett Almanac of Baseball Cards and Collectibles -- what answer do you think I have to give

In all seriousness, there was a lot we did I preferred at Beckett and some things Krause did I would have liked to have done (larger print)

But I know this board was primarily a standard catalog board but I did so much of my own work that we were on a par with Krause when I left. I once shocked Dan McKee when he asked about Vassar sweater cards at a show and I showed him the checklists and fairly accurate pricing. He asked me, how do you know about these -- um Dan, remember that was my job -- LOL

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Old 04-09-2013, 01:15 PM
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Darn Rich, sorry for not making the connection. I actually got hooked on SCD through associations on another board and have had a lot of fun trading information with Bob Lemke over the years about variations. Sorry for not making the connection but very glad to have access to another great hobby resource
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Standard Catlaog always had a few things the Big Beckett did not and vice versa in my experience. I still use a combination of both for research but pricing I get via eBay or VCP these days (way of the world I guess).
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:46 PM
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Default Cut lines and MBs

Five pictures illustrating my earlier cut line/border discussion:

1. Topps 1970 #347 Snyder. The cut line was a guide at the bottom of the half sheet.

2. Topps 1970 #112 Fryman (regular card). On the closeup you can see the cut line. You can make out specks of the "burlap" coming through the cut line and there is further card below the cut line.

3. Topps MB #165 Oliva with a medium border.

4. Topps MB #165 Oliva with a larger border. This card is slightly more off-centered than the above. Compared to the off white cut line in pic #2 this is whiter, looks more solid. This border is the top of the MB Hot Rod card L'il Beauty. All the HR cards were horizontal, so it would be the right edge of the L'il Beauty card.

5. Bottom of a Kocourek 67 Football MB card on close up. Went straight from a game I opened up over about 15 years ago into this holder. (Only touched twice--by me and the Milton Bradley worker who put it into the tray. I took it out of deep storage for the picture.) On magnification this mesh lower border matches exactly the top mesh border of the Dodgers MB 168 card top border. Each of the MB cards has a unique match to a card above or below it on the sheet. However, you have to have at several cards with borders on each side of the match to achieve this, as well as a magnifying loupe.
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The cut lines on the standard topps set appear to be about 1/32 of an inch so it would be safe to assume a card showing a white strip edge greater than that is a MB card as long as it was located on the inner rows of the sheet, correct? However, if a standard Topps card was located on one of the outside rows of a sheet and was miscut it is still possible for it to possess a greater strip of white. After looking at some of my '68's it also appears the cut lines weren't always as white as the one shown in the pic you provided...if I'm seeing it correctly it appears some were brown and others were a very faint white, are others finding this?
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