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Old 04-08-2013, 10:26 PM
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Default Definite MB

No doubt it is an MB. The back is diagnostic, but also the border. I will post some detailed pics later but the cut line (thinner, off-white) which was intended as a marker to help cut half sheets in the regular 68 issue is often confused with the MB border. The controversy a few months back where PSA graded the Ryan as an MB happened because they confused a cut line with a true border. In the end the card was properly declassified as an MB.

On the Dodgers card the white border at the top is actually the lower part of the Kocourek 88 football card. Had the card been off centered to the top, therefore with a white border at the bottom, that would be part of the Mustang Karavan 17 Hot Rod card.

Cards on the extreme left and right ends of the sheet could have white borders, but so did the regular issue cards, if they were off centered. That would not be possible for this card as it occupied the 2nd from the left position in its row between the left most card (107 Check List Brown Fine Mesh) and the 3rd card in the row, Larry Jaster 117.
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Incredible knowledge....Carlton, any nice finds in Chantilly last weekend?
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:33 AM
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Default Not sure about the hot rod cards

But we also had the Football MB cards in the Beckett DB.

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Thanks for the diagnosis Carlton! I appreciate you responding to Al's email and stopping by the thread.

Al - the link you provided with the previous exchange on this topic was awesome! There is so much knowledge in this forum and that thread was a bone with lots of meat! Delicious.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:44 AM
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Default SCD and Beckett

Rich--I have always used SCD. Do you use both and if so which do you find most useful ?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:47 PM
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Beckett Almanac of Baseball Cards and Collectibles -- what answer do you think I have to give

In all seriousness, there was a lot we did I preferred at Beckett and some things Krause did I would have liked to have done (larger print)

But I know this board was primarily a standard catalog board but I did so much of my own work that we were on a par with Krause when I left. I once shocked Dan McKee when he asked about Vassar sweater cards at a show and I showed him the checklists and fairly accurate pricing. He asked me, how do you know about these -- um Dan, remember that was my job -- LOL

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Old 04-09-2013, 01:15 PM
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Default Beckett

Darn Rich, sorry for not making the connection. I actually got hooked on SCD through associations on another board and have had a lot of fun trading information with Bob Lemke over the years about variations. Sorry for not making the connection but very glad to have access to another great hobby resource
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Standard Catlaog always had a few things the Big Beckett did not and vice versa in my experience. I still use a combination of both for research but pricing I get via eBay or VCP these days (way of the world I guess).
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