Mickey Mantle - yes or no?

[Frozen in Time]

Wow - After following the Mantles on this site for a few months, helpful PMs from several generous members with lots of criteria to look out for and restudying several of mine own received in person, I don't see a single aspect of these fakes that would fool me now.

The Marino's in particular seem to miss on almost every single letter - The M's are all wrong in shape, loop and finish, the connection between the i and c is wrong, the shape of the c and k are pathetic as is the connection between the k, e and y. And thats just the first name. Spacing, slant, size and pressure for all the letters in the second name are just as bad.

Feel pretty good with my progression which is directly related to all the help I've received on this site. So much so that I now have a hard time believing that anyone could be fooled by a Marino.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Frozen in Time

Wow - After following the Mantles on this site for a few months, helpful PMs from several generous members with lots of criteria to look out for and restudying several of mine own received in person, I don't see a single aspect of these fakes that would fool me now.

The Marino's in particular seem to miss on almost every single letter - The M's are all wrong in shape, loop and finish, the connection between the i and c is wrong, the shape of the c and k are pathetic as is the connection between the k, e and y. And thats just the first name. Spacing, slant, size and pressure for all the letters in the second name are just as bad.

Feel pretty good with my progression which is directly related to all the help I've received on this site. So much so that I now have a hard time believing that anyone could be fooled by a Marino.

+1

[shelly]

Just remember it was 13 years ago. The so called authenticators at that time had no idea what was going on. I can tell you for a fact that every major auction house sold not only Marino but all the crap out of the East Coast as well. B and J, Howards and Madison sports. They sold more junk than Marino ever did.

[Frozen in Time]

Originally Posted by shelly

Just remember it was 13 years ago.

Good point! However, if I knew than what I know now about authentic Mantle autos, I believe any version of Marino's fakes would have still raised flags for me.

[shelly]

Trust me he did Jersey's so well that when Mickey came by and saw them He said don't remember signing those but they look beautiful. It was at the Vegas show after he stoped drinking. He fooled a lot of pros.

[David Atkatz]

Bull. Let's see an example. (And don't put up a genuine signature!)

I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it: Marino's stuff--all of it--was garbage. The only people he could fool were those who shopped at HSN or Smokey's or other such places. Hardly those whom you'd call "collectors."

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Bull. Let's see an example. (And don't put up a genuine signature!)

I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it: Marino's stuff--all of it--was garbage. The only people he could fool were those who shopped at HSN or Smokey's or other such places. Hardly those whom you'd call "collectors."

Geez, David, you might be right about your claim "whom you'd hardly call collectors."

After all, wasn't it thirteen years ago that you purchased that Fang penned "1927 NY Yankees" team-signed forgery for $10,000.

I guess you weren't a "collector" back then, David.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by shelly

Trust me he did Jersey's so well that when Mickey came by and saw them He said don't remember signing those but they look beautiful. It was at the Vegas show after he stoped drinking. He fooled a lot of pros.

On a semi-related note... I recall hearing this story years ago..

At a paid signing, The Mick was presented with a stack of the Mantle/Maris pose 8x10 photos. They were all signed by Maris.

Mantle thumbed through the stack, took out a pen and as he started signing noted, "Well, at least we know one of these signatures is real."

Anyone know if the story is true? Has anyone seen a Mantle/Maris with a fake Maris and a good Mantle?