Post-1972 HOF Expansion Era committee

[Mr. Zipper]

Torre and LaRussa are eventual shoe-ins IMO. Cox is borderline, but wouldn't make the cut in my view.

Steinbrenner would be the most interesting debate. He'd be a slam dunk if not for his suspensions.

Curious to hear what others say.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Cox is a first ballot shoe-in. I think the same for both LaRussa and Torre.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Cox is a first ballot shoe-in. I think the same for both LaRussa and Torre.

Agreed.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Torre and LaRussa are eventual shoe-ins IMO. Cox is borderline, but wouldn't make the cut in my view.

Steinbrenner would be the most interesting debate. He'd be a slam dunk if not for his suspensions.

Curious to hear what others say.

I personally think Cox is in, and deserves it even more so than Torre, whose playing career was far superior but who managed a team that for the most part was gonna win with a chimp at the helm. LaRussa will go, but I think that will only further shine a light on the hypocrisy of steroid-obsessed voters.

For better or worse, Steinbrenner changed the face of baseball (which is my argument for Miller as well). Hell, George once hosted Saturday Night Live! If the "fame" part of Hall of Fame is to be taken literally, Steinbrenner should be in no doubt.

Of course, it all depends on who the group of 16 that vote on this committee are...

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

I personally think Cox is in, and deserves it even more so than Torre, whose playing career was far superior but who managed a team that for the most part was gonna win with a chimp at the helm..

I think you are understating the difficulty of managing in New York with the Boss at the helm. if it was as easy as having a star team, the Yankees would have 5 more WS championships in the last 10 years.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I think you are understating the difficulty of managing in New York with the Boss at the helm. if it was as easy as having a star team, the Yankees would have 5 more WS championships in the last 10 years.

Good point, and it's not like winning is hard when you are throwing Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz on the mound all the time.

[MooseDog]

I think LaRussa and Torre and pretty safe.

Finley and Steinbrenner both deserve a look, maybe for different reasons. I am an A's fan having grown up in the Finley era. Looking back there were a lot of things Charlie O. was way ahead of his time.

[dgo71]

Cox, Torre and LaRussa are locks. Their busts should already be carved and just waiting for them to pick up. John Schuerholz gets in this year too I think, making for a very Braves-heavy class.

Steinbrenner I think gets in eventually, but honestly putting him in ahead of Marvin Miller is a slap in the face to someone who was repeatedly slapped in his lifetime. Miller's omission from the HOF is IMO a much more tragic state of affairs than them leaving Santo out until after he had passed.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by dgo71

Cox, Torre and LaRussa are locks. Their busts should already be carved and just waiting for them to pick up. John Schuerholz gets in this year too I think, making for a very Braves-heavy class.

Steinbrenner I think gets in eventually, but honestly putting him in ahead of Marvin Miller is a slap in the face to someone who was repeatedly slapped in his lifetime. Miller's omission from the HOF is IMO a much more tragic state of affairs than them leaving Santo out until after he had passed.

Good call on Schuerholz! I was looking for more names, and the Hall loves GMs that built champions with two different teams.

I totally agree about Miller. He has been one vote off in the last two elections. No way Steinbrenner should (or will IMO) get in before him, because without Miller's work for free agency the Yankees couldn't have been what Steinbrenner made them.