1860's Harry Wrights

[GaryPassamonte]

Jay-Images used on CdVs can also be from an earlier time. I'm sure there are CdVs with images taken earlier than the mount would suggest. Photographers retained negatives for future demand. Possibly, the earliest CdVs created with the negative are lost to the ages. Thus, the CdV may be identified to a date range by the mount, which gives us the approximate year of issue, but the actual image is from an earlier period than assumed. I'm not talking decades here, but a few years is significant both historically and with regard to value.

[drc]

If you believe the Hoboken is older, which it very well may be, that makes a difference baseball card wise when you're talking about firsts. I think that the Hoboken is dated is a major part of it. Other items require speculation.

I thought the Sam/Harry CDV was special, so if someone says it should be priced higher, I won't argue.

[oldjudge]

Phil--what are you talking about? The reserve on the Harry Wright by himself is $50,000. According to Rob, the reserve on the Sam and Harry ticket is $10,000 (it is not shown in the preview).

[bcbgcbrcb]

Jay:

I did not even know that there was a Sam & Harry Wright item in REA. I was referring to the one that just sold in Legendary last time as I mentioned in my post. The link in my original post here refers to REA's Harry Wright only item.

[Kenny Cole]

Phil,

Do you think the fact that one is a single portrait of Wright, as opposed to one of Wright and his dad, may account for part of the difference? I know that personally, I would pay much more for a card of Wright by himself than for a photo of Wright with his dad. Perhaps that's just me, but I suspect that some other people might feel the same way I do.

[drc]

My opinion is they're both nice items. The Hoboken is more documentably baseball than the other. The other (Mathew Brady CDV of Sam and Harry) was ambiguous.

I wouldn't label either as a baseball card, though the Hoboken ticket is getting very close. If the tickets were designed to be kept as a mementos, then I'd say its very very close. And putting a photo of the players on front, sure makes the appear to be be designed as collectables. So I can understand if someone calls the Hoboken a baseball card, even if I call it a ticket.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Agreed, Kenny, I think that is part of it.

Let's see what the REA Sam & Harry does with the $10K reserve/minimum bid as opposed to the Sam & Harry from the last Legendary auction with the much lower minimum bid. Obviously, the first bid in REA will top the Legendary final sale price. I'm not usually a betting man but will go out on a limb and say that the REA item will get at least one bid, 99.99% chance that there will be more than one bid.........