Need Help with Bucky Harris from Permier Auction

[shelly]

I opened a thread for that same reason. If you are going ask don't insult us by saying ok now I am going to ask someone I trust. Why waste your time or ours?

[yanks12025]

I've asked Jim, Shelly, etc for their advice on autos. But I trust our members opinions more then PSA or JSA.

[thecatspajamas]

Taz, I can see where you're coming from, being limited by the AH to second opinions from a particular authenticator only (which is a whole other debate in itself).

In the future, if you're bound by AH rules to submitting it elsewhere to get a refund, maybe wait to get the results back from JSA or whoever before posting it here for opinions though? That way it becomes more of a debate of JSA's evaluation of the auto rather than a slap to those who render their opinion here only to hear that you're still sending it off to a TPA.

[drc]

Jim's response was rhetorically ambiguous. He may have implied, but never said it was fake.

I'm not criticizing Jim at all, just saying I could see how the original poster might not have realized he was getting a Yes or No answer. In fact, I first read it to mean that Jim thought the authenticity could reasonably be debated.

[travrosty]

it's the old, "thanks for telling me it's fake but if i can get it to pass psa or jsa i can resell it and get my money back and pass the fake onto someone else wrapped in a fancy coa from an unnamed authenticator."

fake is fake, psa or jsa cert on a fake does not make it real, it just justifies reselling it in some peoples minds. he said these are generally considered fakes.

spence or grads opinion makes it real then? what is jim, chopped liver?

Jim, start charging 100 dollars and then they will believe you.

[mr2686]

Jim, I'll believe you for free!

[tazdmb]

First, I never meant to insult Jim, or anyone else on this board. To be honest, as I mentioned earlier, I have no idea if the autograph is truly fake or not. I see Ron's book said most of these are fakes and to be honest, I can't make heads or tails of Jim's answer.

I respect Jim enough that if he, or certain other board members, would said it was real, I would have saved my money on JSA. I am only sending to JSA in the hopes of getting a refund. I thought I did my due diligence when I put the bid in when I was out of town, as the signature looks comparable to other authentic examples. Should I have done better research prior to bidding, yes. However, at this point, I am reluctant to throw nearly $100 (more once JSA is done with it) away without trying get my money back, which is what I am willing to do if Jim/Richard/Shelley can conclude it is fake, regardless of JSA's response.

[baseballart]

Does anyone have any comments on the Stanley Harris I posted? It doesn't look like any Bucky Harris signatures on google images, but again, my knowledge of autographs barely extends beyond recognizing my own signature.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by baseballart

Does anyone have any comments on the Stanley Harris I posted? It doesn't look like any Bucky Harris signatures on google images, but again, my knowledge of autographs barely extends beyond recognizing my own signature.

It looks like an autograph to me. Does that help any, Max?