History being destroyed

[yanksfan09]

I agree with everyone that it's destroying history. I hate all these cards. I think it's great for current players, so kids can pull a piece of a Pujols jersey in a card from a pack. With current players, all the material is over abundant and constantly being replenished. New players probably use a full new Jersey about every day of the week. It wouldn't surprise me if they even used multiple jerseys in a single game, just to supply companies with more "game-used" stuff.

But as for the vintage guys, who's material is very limited, it's a complete shame. Certainly, the card companies are most to blame and only care about making a buck. However, there's gotta be blame put on the collectors who buy and support this stuff as well. I yell and scream at my TV for all the crap "reality" shows and what-not, but I guess people must be supporting that crap or they wouldn't be being made. I don't know, maybe it's also more of a lack of choice from TV providers and card producers as well? It would be wonderful if society collectively rejected all the crap music and TV shows and garbage insert cards, but I don't really see it happening.

[GrayGhost]

Maybe someone did mention this earlier, but WHAT PROOF do we even have that it is "a Shoeless Joe" bat piece, Ruth uniform swatch, etc etc. As we have seen on autographs, a "leap of faith" sometimes can get you to land in a bottomless abyss.

[novakjr]

I'm on the fence here. I don't like that they're cutting this stuff up, but I at least understand the reasoning behind it..

We gotta remember that the card companies aren't really creating these things for us. They're creating them for the modern collector and/or typical non-collector who may be enticed by the idea of something like this.

Personally, I don't think it'll be long before we see them cutting up vintage cards as swatches...maybe a t206 Wags, or baltimore new ruth, or a '52 topps mantle, hacked into small pieces and affixed to new cards..

[GrayGhost]

They are doing it STRICTLY for money making, young/new collectors or not. Its a ******* shame. Yeah, give me my Joe Jackson bat sawdust..lovely. Its a slap in the face of history of the game, at the expense of luring people into buying this crap.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

They are doing it STRICTLY for money making, young/new collectors or not. Its a ******* shame. Yeah, give me my Joe Jackson bat sawdust..lovely. Its a slap in the face of history of the game, at the expense of luring people into buying this crap.

Agreed completely. I didn't mean that it was specifically what the young/new guys wanted, but more that it was a strategy that the companies are employing in an attempt to entice people into buying their crap.

[jboosted92]

Originally Posted by novakjr

Agreed completely. I didn't mean that it was specifically what the young/new guys wanted, but more that it was a strategy that the companies are employing in an attempt to entice people into buying their crap.

Overall Supply of Game Used/Worn, will go down, and demand will go up

what will happen in 20 years?

[timzcardz]

Purely for the sake of argument . . .

IF these items were such a sacred part of history, then they wouldn't even be available for purchase by the card companies.

IF it is such an important part of history, is anyone starting an organization to outbid the card companies to acquire these and protect them from this fate?

Unless I'm mistaken, the Hall of Fame will not pay to acquire and protect these pieces of history, and even they have failed in part in this respect in protecting the history entrusted to their care.

Is MLB with it's billions of $$$ buying them up to protect them from destruction?

So aside from a few here, who else considers them worthy of protection as historical treasures to the point that they are willing to put thier money where their mouth is?


[Just some related thoughts and not my personal beliefs.]