Show beginning 3/5 on CNBC called Treasure Detectives. Cobb-Edwards Wagner examined.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

at this point he should have to submit to a lie detector test to prove he really thinks it is not a fake.

if he passes, ok. maybe he really is that pathological and distrusting and its a personal flaw.

if he fails, it will be the last time we ever hear from this guy.

kevin

Great idea. The story that I originally heard about these guys back in 2002 was that they had stolen this card from someone who had glued a fake front to a real Piedmont back. I would love to ask them where they got this card while they are taking this test.

[vintagechris]

I don't know if this is the case or not, but the way he was acting reminded me of less than knowledgeable autograph collectors who have spent a bunch of money with people who sell forgeries and then when you tell them and show them evidence, they just don't want to believe it. They hold out hope that somehow it is real.

I have seen this countless times in the autograph hobby. You show them evidence that they are dealing with forgers and they look for every way they can to convince you and themselves that what they have bought is real. Sadly, many of them then try to sell and recoup $ just in case it isn't real.

[2dueces]

This this isn't the last we will hear of this card and the owners. It's been going on long enough but it ain't over.

[scooter729]

I was trying to find the original thread in the archives from many years ago - weren't these two guys on here arguing about this card back in 2005 or so? I can't find it, so I'm not sure if I am (as Roger Clemens would say) mis-remembering.

Can anyone help me find this if it really happened?

[murcerfan]

It seems like these clowns and Okeefe (the great defender of our hobby) owe some appologies....somehow I doubt that will ever happen. Time to drum up the next great hobby story to profit from.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I was trying to find the original thread in the archives from many years ago - weren't these two guys on here arguing about this card back in 2005 or so? I can't find it, so I'm not sure if I am (as Roger Clemens would say) mis-remembering.

Can anyone help me find this if it really happened?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81887&

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81898& - This thread is started by one of them.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81976&

[scooter729]

Thanks Andy - will make for some fun lunchtime reading to go over these again!

[Deertick]

I really have to hand it to the producers (or the authenticators) of this show. They came out of the gate asking the hard common sense questions, and pretty much backed him in a corner by bringing in CSA. They knew it wasn't real from the get go, but their 'mission statement' is to be as close to 100% certain as possible.
I also felt that Edwards really thought it was authentic, and everyone up to this point were just being mean.

Last week they proved a Lalique hood ornament was authentic. The guy paid $1200 for it in a charity auction. Worth $300K! I am hooked.

[deadballfreaK]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81887&

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81898& - This thread is started by one of them.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81976&

I just spent an hour (can't sleep anyway) reviewing that old crap. Quite amusing. I wouldn't want to try and slip a good fake by this board, let alone that thing.

[npa589]

Wow, just read Cobb or Edwards' post on Net54 a while back....goodness. Is everyone still a racist for being "player haters" towards them? New question, what are the chances that "player" was an intended pun?


Red and yellow black or white, they are morons in my sight. No one trusts the silly two men with "TheCard".

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81887&

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81898& - This thread is started by one of them.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81976&

I just started reading the "This thread is started by one of them" thread and all I can say is I'm so sorry our educational system has failed him so. Is this person even remotely familiar with grammar or did he just randomly hit the letters on his keyboard and hope he formed words and complete sentences???

[bn2cardz]

Out of boredom on my work break I was curious if Cobb's or Edward's had taken down their site or had released a comment and found this post from their facebook page (accompanied with a link about the PSA 8 wagner being trimmed):

I have been saying this for years that the PSA-8 Wagner is alter. I have had every test done on my The Cobb/Edwards T206 Honus Wagner Card and pass every test and these other Wagner cards had no test done on them and can sell for millions. This Sh#t isn't right. Eleven years I have been fighting and still they want accept my card as the real deal. Even to go as far as to tell a open lie on TV Teasure Detective CNBC show. My card pass all the test on that show and the host of the show called my card a fake. Not right but I will win in the end. I put the challenge out to PSA, SGC to have a show down live on TV to prove to the world that my card is real or fake. No editng TV. Lets do the damm thing Joe Orlando at PSA. I need people to put pass on the word. Ray wants a show down live on TV....

I have to admit I would watch a show put out by PSA or SGC, but either way it looks like this saga isn't over yet.