EMR Team-Please have this one removed

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by sylbry

I know this is the wrong forum for Bo Jackson but ebay's incompetence when it comes to autographs is universal.

I reported this one yesterday and it is still active.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BO-JACKSON-R...item257b850539

Like I said, why even allow for the ability to report fake autographs if they have no intentions of acting upon it. But hey, it has one of those hologram thingies so it must be real, right?

Ebay's new slogan should be "supporting criminals since 1995."

EMR team members do have the ability to report fakes and have something done about them as long as ebay's precious authenticators are not involved.
Ebay likes to give the illusion that anyone can report a fake and that someone will look at it by giving you a link to click. That is just an illusion. The reporting of fakes is a worthless endeavor unless you are an EMR member. Ebay wants to create the illusion that they care. They really don't care all that much.

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

EMR team members do have the ability to report fakes and have something done about them as long as ebay's precious authenticators are not involved.
Ebay likes to give the illusion that anyone can report a fake and that someone will look at it by giving you a link to click. That is just an illusion. The reporting of fakes is a worthless endeavor unless you are an EMR member. Ebay wants to create the illusion that they care. They really don't care all that much.

I could see ebay being resistant about doing something with autographs authenticated by individuals/companies they deem as credible. But what I don't understand is why they don't take action against sellers of obvious fakes with bogus LOA's. Hey ebay, here is a tip. If you can not read the LOA in the photo or there is no contact info on the LOA, it is bogus. And so is the associated item.

It's frustrating. Goes back to your point of you want to help but in the end some people really don't want your help.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by sylbry

I could see ebay being resistant about doing something with autographs authenticated by individuals/companies they deem as credible. But what I don't understand is why they don't take action against sellers of obvious fakes with bogus LOA's. Hey ebay, here is a tip. If you can not read the LOA in the photo or there is no contact info on the LOA, it is bogus. And so is the associated item.

It's frustrating. Goes back to your point of you want to help but in the end some people really don't want your help.

FYI, I agree with what you're saying nearly 100%. Good luck getting those crappy Bo Jackson autos removed.

But that last link you provided did come with a LOA signed by the authenticator with his name, address and phone number on it.

[Plinvestments]

I wonder how many listings would be removed if they just did a keyword search for everyone on their banned list?

[GrayGhost]

What is frustrating is that there are likely many autographs that ARE REAL and don't have the "Ebay authenticators" list COA with them. Not to say the "banned ones" fit the bill, but those who sell a legit sig with NO COA, because they don't believe in one, or issue their own. It's difficult to seperate the obvious good from the "maybe good".

I recently sold an inexpensive HOF autograph and had no COA w it, just that I knew it was good. Buyer sent it to PSA or JSA, one of em, just to "be sure", primarily in case of resale to "have a certificate".

When we get people to not think the world revolves around "needing a certificate", we will be better off IMO.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

When we get people to not think the world revolves around "needing a certificate", we will be better off IMO.

But when large companies spend large sums of money to convince the public that you do "need a certificate" and also denigrate those who do not have a certificate, then the public will act the way that they do.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

But when large companies spend large sums of money to convince the public that you do "need a certificate" and also denigrate those who do not have a certificate, then the public will act the way that they do.

they groomed the public to 'need' the certificate, by casting dispersions on those that dont use psa or jsa. psa's own website asks people to cast a weary eye on those who do not use them. they say 'people' will ask questions as to your reasons why you dont use psa.

they also say that reputable dealers use psa. but one's reputation is earned not by pawning off authentication responsibilities onto another party, but by taking that responsibility themselves.

the most 'reputable' dealers are long time dealers that know what they sell and dont need the psa's of the world to 'bail' them out on the liability side. dealers will say "well psa says its good" so its no returns. i am not responsibile. And psa will say. "it's just our opinion' so we are not responsible. no one wants to be responsible anymore.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by sylbry

I could see ebay being resistant about doing something with autographs authenticated by individuals/companies they deem as credible. But what I don't understand is why they don't take action against sellers of obvious fakes with bogus LOA's. Hey ebay, here is a tip. If you can not read the LOA in the photo or there is no contact info on the LOA, it is bogus. And so is the associated item.

It's frustrating. Goes back to your point of you want to help but in the end some people really don't want your help.

That takes money time and effort on ebay's part. You think they want to spend money, time and effort to do that? No way, no how.