Let the bidding frenzy begin......

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

...So, its "wins" all around in my opinion

I dunno, ask the guy that paid 10.6k if he would have preferred it be outed or not.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by Leon

I dunno, ask the guy that paid 10.6k if he would have preferred it be outed or not.

Indeed. Maybe he didn't know about it until it got outed?

Also, it's been mentioned in another thread and seemed to get pretty unanimous support: don't bid more than you're willing to spend.

Pretty good rule of thumb.

Finally, why is the buyer more important than the seller? Everyone is concentrating on what a great deal COULD have been had on this card. Isn't the seller entitled to getting what the card is worth?

Again, assuming the buyer didn't go into debt or something to buy the card, everyone got an equitable deal here.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Indeed. Maybe he didn't know about it until it got outed?

Also, it's been mentioned in another thread and seemed to get pretty unanimous support: don't bid more than you're willing to spend.

Pretty good rule of thumb.

Finally, why is the buyer more important than the seller? Everyone is concentrating on what a great deal COULD have been had on this card. Isn't the seller entitled to getting what the card is worth?

Again, assuming the buyer didn't go into debt or something to buy the card, everyone got an equitable deal here.

Hey, there is a reason there is no rule. I am just saying, if I were the buyer I would prefer not to have thousands of unnecessary collectors looking at what I am bidding on and talking about it. It probably did work out better for the seller. Of course the seller is entitled to every penny he can get....but it is his/her responsibility to get the most for it, not ours. I will reiterate, these are all reasons there is no rule. Happy collecting....

[ullmandds]

This is getting kinda old...but...in this case the buyer did not do his due diligence on selling the card...he did not assign an acc designation to it...did not mention the manufacturer/maker of the card...his description was vague and therefore he did not deserve full value...in my opinion. It is not the buyers job to market and promote someone elses auction.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This is getting kinda old...but...in this case the buyer did not do his due diligence on selling the card...he did not assign an acc designation to it...did not mention the manufacturer/maker of the card...his description was vague and therefore he did not deserve full value...in my opinion. It is not the buyers job to market and promote someone elses auction.

Love the attitude. "If you don't know what you have, you *deserve* to get taken advantage of!".

[glchen]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Love the attitude. "If you don't know what you have, you *deserve* to get taken advantage of!".

Geez, you're such a good person, how come you don't go through some ebay auctions, and if they are badly described, scanned, or miscategorized, out them on the main board so the poor seller doesn't get taken advantage of?

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by glchen

Geez, you're such a good person, how come you don't go through some ebay auctions, and if they are badly described, scanned, or miscategorized, out them on the main board so the poor seller doesn't get taken advantage of?

Just curious here, Gary...any reason you're taking this thread so personal? Peter seems offended as well...even thinks the thread is getting old and still comes back and responds.

I see both sides of the spectrum here, but since there is obviously two sides that have legitimate arguments, why try really hard to make your point...it's already been made!

[HRBAKER]

Some would say that it is proper etiquette to alert a seller who does not know what he has of what he has. You know, Do Unto Others. Our definition of etiquette is oft times defined by self interest, purely human.

Good points made on both sides of this issue. I agree with Leon we don't need a rule. I have no idea if 10,600 is a good or bad price. I am however happy that he didn't end the auction early in response to an offer trying to take advantage of his lack of information. That's just me.

[ullmandds]

Not exactly...this guy knew what he had had significant value...he chose not to take 5-10 minutes to research it...the card says f and m on the bottom...had he googled babe ruth f and m he most likely would have found some info on this card...including recent sales prices.

How much effort would this take? Not much?

If one is a go getter...a hard worker...he/she deserves to reap the benefits of his/her hard work...as compared to the lazy one...who in my opinion does not deserve the same!

[triwak]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

...the card says f and m on the bottom...had he googled babe ruth f and m he most likely would have found some info on this card...including recent sales prices.

Question: I could never find the "f and m" anywhere on this card. I actually was somewhat confused as to how everyone knew immediately what this was. I thought is was an Exhibit at first. Just curious?