Misrepresentation

[teetwoohsix]

What it is Ed, is that you are just wanting to be treated the way you treat other people and this seller obviously doesn't do things like you do. I can say that you are one of the best people to deal with on the board and you are a top notch seller- you wouldn't handle the situation the way this seller did, if it were the other way around. I'm guessing it's more the principle (with you) than the $$. I hope it works out & sorry this happened to you.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Edwolf1963]

Thanks, Clayton, all - that's what it really comes down to is treating others as I would want to be aspect. A good business transaction is when both sides feel good about it, not when "got away" with something. Even if he came back and said little more that "my bad, sorry.." and did nothing else, I probably wouldn't have had such an issue. The ignoring, no respond, hope it will go away crap lends a lot to the perception that it was done with intent.

Can't argue w/you Bobby, eBay saw it the same way - - I wasn't looking for full refund though. eBay gives you few options you'd like to see such as keeping the card, full or partial refund. I indicated I was open to working something out, admitting that I cracked it out and open to most anything. They never read that part, just saying full refund is not approved. Even after I said that's not what I was looking for, literally noting "I don't deserve that and not what I am looking for", they denied appeal saying "sorry you had a bad experience, we cannot approve full refund"

Anyway, need to move on/let it go, but appreciate the feedback just the same. Lesson learned to pay more attention to the scans before sniping.

Clayton, again, thank you for the kind feedback! Experiences in working deals with you and everyone on this board have all been positive!

Ed

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Thanks, Clayton, all - that's what it really comes down to is treating others as I would want to be aspect. A good business transaction is when both sides feel good about it, not when "got away" with something. Even if he came back and said little more that "my bad, sorry.." and did nothing else, I probably wouldn't have had such an issue. The ignoring, no respond, hope it will go away crap lends a lot to the perception that it was done with intent.

Can't argue w/you Bobby, eBay saw it the same way - - I wasn't looking for full refund though. eBay gives you few options you'd like to see such as keeping the card, full or partial refund. I indicated I was open to working something out, admitting that I cracked it out and open to most anything. They never read that part, just saying full refund is not approved. Even after I said that's not what I was looking for, literally noting "I don't deserve that and not what I am looking for", they denied appeal saying "sorry you had a bad experience, we cannot approve full refund"

Anyway, need to move on/let it go, but appreciate the feedback just the same. Lesson learned to pay more attention to the scans before sniping.

Clayton, again, thank you for the kind feedback! Experiences in working deals with you and everyone on this board have all been positive!

Ed

Hey, no problem Ed- I've had many great dealings with you and hope to have many more over the years. It's always been a smooth transaction and positive experience.

"He sold 5 cracker jacks not 4, 2 mislabeled,again it seems to be a mistake most people do not have our knowledge of cards wether they should or not. I feel the buyer made as much of an error as the seller and should accept his error and move on. I refuse to lay blame solely on the seller for a mistake while giving the buyer a pass and like some others have said had you just looked at the scan and not just bought the holder the problem would have been avoided."

I don't think Ed ever solely laid the blame on the seller, he acknowledged his mistakes- and I'm sure he's moved on. I think he just expected the seller to be willing to work with him (maybe a discount of some kind) because if the item wasn't misrepresented, Ed may not have even looked at the listing. And, if the shoe was on the other foot, Ed is the type of guy who WOULD make it to where both parties walked away happy.

Sincerely, Clayton

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Hey, no problem Ed- I've had many great dealings with you and hope to have many more over the years. It's always been a smooth transaction and positive experience.

"He sold 5 cracker jacks not 4, 2 mislabeled,again it seems to be a mistake most people do not have our knowledge of cards wether they should or not. I feel the buyer made as much of an error as the seller and should accept his error and move on. I refuse to lay blame solely on the seller for a mistake while giving the buyer a pass and like some others have said had you just looked at the scan and not just bought the holder the problem would have been avoided."

I don't think Ed ever solely laid the blame on the seller, he acknowledged his mistakes- and I'm sure he's moved on. I think he just expected the seller to be willing to work with him (maybe a discount of some kind) because if the item wasn't misrepresented, Ed may not have even looked at the listing. And, if the shoe was on the other foot, Ed is the type of guy who WOULD make it to where both parties walked away happy.

Sincerely, Clayton

Well put, Clayton and you are spot on with your analysis of what Ed was explaining in this thread.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

Well put, Clayton and you are spot on with your analysis of what Ed was explaining in this thread.

Thanks Mike

Sincerely, Clayton

[Edwolf1963]

Thank you Clayton, Mike - appreciate the feedback! .. And to everyone for your feedback, opinion. Just wanted to vent a bit and get some feedback :-)

[Ease]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

What it is Ed, is that you are just wanting to be treated the way you treat other people and this seller obviously doesn't do things like you do. I can say that you are one of the best people to deal with on the board and you are a top notch seller- you wouldn't handle the situation the way this seller did, if it were the other way around. I'm guessing it's more the principle (with you) than the $$. I hope it works out & sorry this happened to you.

Sincerely, Clayton

+1

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

What it is Ed, is that you are just wanting to be treated the way you treat other people and this seller obviously doesn't do things like you do. I can say that you are one of the best people to deal with on the board and you are a top notch seller- you wouldn't handle the situation the way this seller did, if it were the other way around. I'm guessing it's more the principle (with you) than the $$. I hope it works out & sorry this happened to you.

Sincerely, Clayton

+2! If I were the seller, I would have been all apologetic and refunded you fully, or worked something else out to your satisfaction. Another indication that this misrepresentation may have been intentional is that the seller did not include a pic of the back of this card in his eBay listing.
Val

[calvindog]

The card can't be refunded because it was cracked out; that being said, the seller misrepresented the card in his listing and should refund some of the purchase price.

[kcohen]

I think many here would agree that, if the seller had any integrity which appears to not be the case, a solomonic solution of a $50 refund would have been appropriate.