NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used > Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-14-2013, 12:05 PM
Runscott's Avatar
Runscott Runscott is offline
Belltown Vintage
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,657
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CardsFan999 View Post
I like TPG because they make it easier for me to sell vetted items and I get a better price. That is the bottom line. Strictly financial for me.
+1 on the card side. I only collect non-graded, but am moving toward only selling graded cards. It's easier, faster and fewer returned items.
__________________
$co++ Forre$+
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-14-2013, 12:27 PM
CardsFan999 CardsFan999 is offline
Dave
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Runscott View Post
+1 on the card side. I only collect non-graded, but am moving toward only selling graded cards. It's easier, faster and fewer returned items.
It appears that I'm much the same as you regarding cards. I like them raw, so when I do buy graded cards I generally do a crackout (with a few exceptions for very high-end grades). I don't sell raw, only graded.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-14-2013, 12:30 PM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

I'm not advocating anything or any company or any authentication process in this post, but no matter how ignorant one thinks are the buyers, if one completely ignores what they want one won't be a successful seller.

If you sit sit down and think about it, you're selling sports collectibles-- not too far removed from selling Beanie Babies and Barbie Dalls. It's not always so horrible to cater to some of want the buyers wants, even when you think the wants are useless or rather dumb. If the buyer wants some sparkly sprinkles in the packaging for her used Barbie Doll, it won't send you to Hell to put some sparkly sprinkles in the packaging.

And, no, I firmly believe items received should be as advertised, including the authenticity. I never suggested or implied anything other.

And do I disagree with some popular collecting 'rules' and auction industry conceits and am able to understand how someone else could have a serious bone to pick with TPAs or card grading? Sure. A few pop hobby rules make me roll my eyes to reach for the blood pressure medication.

And, for the record, I've never paid for a LOA or to have a card graded or anything to to a collectible encapsulated, laminated or hermetically boxed, bagged, fused or housed.

And if I sold Barbie Dolls and learned little girls like sparkly sprinkles in their packaging, I'd go right over to Rite Aid and by a bag of sparkly sprinkles.

I think some people on this board sometimes forget we're not talking about how to solve the Middle East Issue, we're talking about about kids collectibles that, technically, we should have lost interest in when we turned 14.

And, once again, I firmly believe that items should be correctly identified and described at sale, whether its a George Washington letter or a 1978 Topps George Brett or a Malibu Barbie party dress accessory. I never said or implied anything other.

Last edited by drc; 02-14-2013 at 01:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-14-2013, 01:22 PM
CardsFan999 CardsFan999 is offline
Dave
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 35
Default

DRC -- Have you ever considered running for congress? We could use someone with your common sense.

Once big money arrived on the sports collectibles market, and that took some time to evolve, it was inevitable that TPG
authentication would evolve as it did for coins and other collectibles.

I see TPG as a case of a rising tide lifting all boats. I think it's increased the value of peoples collections, both graded and
raw cards. People that couldn't sell their duplicate raw cards for a reasonable price are doing very well selling them graded. TPG
has helped a small online market mushroom. Think about it. Even during a bad economy and less disposable income for many
people, the sports collectible market has held it's own. And the high end graded cards and autos are not only holding value, but
getting more and more at auction.

Collectors want good quality items and TPG increases the odds that they can achieve that goal. Is it a perfect system? No.
Do injustices and mistakes happen? Yes. Are some graders less than perfect? I believe so. But would the market we see
today be different without TPG? Hugely IMHO.

Last edited by CardsFan999; 02-14-2013 at 01:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-14-2013, 01:34 PM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

I could never win. My mom's maiden name is French.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-14-2013, 01:42 PM
npa589's Avatar
npa589 npa589 is offline
N.ate A.dams
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,509
Default

You seem to know an awful lot about Barbies drc!
__________________
.
Looking for: T205 Cubs in AB, Cycle, Sov, HLC. & E91A Cubs, T206 Cubs master set, T3 Cubs
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-14-2013, 01:51 PM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

I thought about the stigma as I was writing. I wanted to use an silly kids toy as an example and nearly used GI Joe.

My friends have a 5 year old daughter so I'm not entirely ignorant about Barbie and her accessories. I've seen in person her kitchen set.

For the record, most of Barbie's autographs on the market are autopen.

Last edited by drc; 02-14-2013 at 02:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-14-2013, 02:15 PM
CardsFan999 CardsFan999 is offline
Dave
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drc View Post
For the record, most of Barbie's autographs on the market are autopen.

Hmmmmmm... I'd always heard that Ken signed for her. Secretarial by her boy-toy.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-16-2013, 07:21 PM
MikeKam MikeKam is offline
Mike Kaminski
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Toronto
Posts: 502
Default

Does anyone have an opinion on SGC authenticating so far? I have seen some of their pieces pop up on eBay and everything so far looks good.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-17-2013, 04:19 AM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,902
Default

I've submitted a bunch of stuff to them and they've been more cautious than the other TPGs--perhaps overly so--even rejecting cards that JSA has already passed and other cards that were sourced directly from someone in MLB.
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-17-2013, 06:55 AM
mschwade mschwade is offline
M@tt Schw@de
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 746
Default

I talked to a dealer the other day and I asked him the opinion of the job SGC has done so far in autograph authentication and his response was, "SGC is by far the most conservative of the three authentication companies (JSA, PSA, SGC)."
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-17-2013, 10:00 AM
theshleps theshleps is offline
Michael
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HI
Posts: 2,133
Default Scg

I agree- they came back with a" not sure "of some signed callahans I had that I know were good.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-08-2014, 08:22 AM
Bossfan Bossfan is offline
Dan
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 96
Default

These are a couple autographs that I found on an online auction that were authenticated by SGC but look a little odd to me (I'm a novice at this, so how it looks to me doesn't mean much). How do they look to you folks?

Thanks.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg brooks.jpg (76.9 KB, 138 views)
File Type: jpg mantle.jpg (72.7 KB, 137 views)
File Type: jpg mantle2.jpg (36.8 KB, 136 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
authenticating autographs-right on the mark travrosty Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 2 11-24-2012 07:44 AM
Best Way of Authenticating Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 05-14-2008 09:48 PM
Authenticating a T3 Turkey Red Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 10-31-2006 05:43 PM
Who Is Authenticating Autographs for PSA Now? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 03-01-2005 08:18 PM
Who Is Authenticating Autographs for PSA Now? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 10 02-06-2005 02:53 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:29 PM.


ebay GSB