FAKE packs and an FBI Fraud Investigation: What would YOU do?

[pepis]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Well besides admitting faking packs if you read post #57, Jose wrote:

The packs that i was involved directly in altering that graded
are still in my posetion,, i call them proof and think only 12 people will see'm

So far there's no clear proof he sold fake packs.

Dan, here is one of the samples, this packs top (Willie) card has a nasty
gum stain on back, and a tear that only okurs when the pack is opened,
Matt Miller and others at the CU were persistant with their offers traying
to buy it, but i couldn't sell it is an important part of my venture.
Jose

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by pepis

Dan, here is one of the samples, this packs top (Willie) card has a nasty
gum stain and a tear that only okurs when the pack is opened,
Matt Miller and others at the CU were persistant with their offers traying
to buy it, but i couldn't sell it is an important part of my venture.
Jose

So is that just a bad/resealed pack that got graded, or is the pack altered?

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

So is that just a bad/resealed pack that got graded, or is the pack altered?

Sample of what? A pack you bought, or a pack you created and had graded? A pack you 'got' from someone? If so, who?

Jose, your dancing around questions is evasive. Your wording of your answers, and I am ASSuming, appears intentionally spun to tell your story the way you want to tell it. Or is it because you are not quite sure how to say it, I don't know. This whole thing is just wrong.

I asked several pages back about your statement of sharing info with 12 people. If this is a thinly veiled reference to a jury, good luck. If this is a reference to a Grand Jury, what are you doing here? Either way, tell it straight or do us all a favor and take a week or so off...

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Sample of what? A pack you bought, or a pack you created and had graded? A pack you 'got' from someone? If so, who?

Jose, your dancing around questions is evasive. Your wording of your answers, and I am ASSuming, appears intentionally spun to tell your story the way you want to tell it. Or is it because you are not quite sure how to say it, I don't know. This whole thing is just wrong.

I asked several pages back about your statement of sharing info with 12 people. If this is a thinly veiled reference to a jury, good luck. If this is a reference to a Grand Jury, what are you doing here? Either way, tell it straight or do us all a favor and take a week or so off...

Sorry, Leon. My name is Keith Temple and I cannot spell worth a d$;n on an ipad

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Sample of what? A pack you bought, or a pack you created and had graded? A pack you 'got' from someone? If so, who?

Jose, your dancing around questions is evasive. Your wording of your answers, and I am ASSuming, appears intentionally spun to tell your story the way you want to tell it. Or is it because you are not quite sure how to say it, I don't know. This whole thing is just wrong.

I asked several pages back about your statement of sharing info with 12 people. If this is a thinly veiled reference to a jury, good luck. If this is a reference to a Grand Jury, what are you doing here? Either way, tell it straight or do us all a favor and take a week or so off...

I have to agree at this point. From other info I've received it seems Jose isn't the angel he makes himself out to be.

S3AN.B4SS1K

[glynparson]

Did not just get altered cards through psa but through all the grading companies including sgc and he posted proof on here with before and after pics.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Did not just get altered cards through psa but through all the grading companies including sgc and he posted proof on here with before and after pics.

I was thinking about that also.

The problem is nobody ever grades the graders and when some finally does and exposes problems, the motives are typically framed with an evil intent.

[Bpm0014]

One simple question that may help clear up a lot of things...black or white....yes or no: Did Pepis ever sell an altered pack??