Answering specific autograph authenticity questions and help

[Deertick]

I want to thank Ken publicly for answering the questions I've had. Also, I'd like to reiterate what I've told you privately: Do not let a few (descriptive noun)'s prevent you from posting here. Many of us value your input.


Shelly,
Good idea to start another thread. I have some thoughts.

[kengoldin]

'harming the hobby' is very subjective. someone might say 'grading cards is harming the hobby', or 'EBAY is harming the hobby'....yet it is legal.
Illegal autograph activity : a) knowingly selling fakes, b)committing forgery, or c)knowingly and intentionally authenticating fakes (a business operated soley for the purpose of rubber stamping someone elses fakes).. is a different story. THAT is what, in theory, should be able to be stopped be legal means, either criminal or civil. THAT is the issue at hand.

I do not want to detour the intent, which is to try to help people and educate when there is a conclusion drawn as to why it is so, but the above certainly is 'the big picture'

[thetruthisoutthere]

Here's an example of how the dirt-bags have tainted the old Scoreboard COA.

Below are two obvious forgeries of Mantle and Ford. Notice how the dirt-bag from "Florida" is now attaching holograms to either an original Scoreboard cert or attaching holograms to a reproduced Scoreboard cert.


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[Deertick]

Seeing those holograms gives me douche chills...

[kengoldin]

Obviously that item was never a Score Board product
and of course, Score Board NEVER used a hologram

[thenavarro]

Ken,

Do you mind sharing the details on what it cost to get Gorbachev to do signings with ScoreBoard? Was it per unit or a lump sum? How did y'all reach him to do a signing? Did y'all ever attempt to get Reagan as well in order to have dual autographed pieces?

Mike

[kengoldin]

It was per unit
For the life of me i cant remember exactly as it was a 1 shot signing, but $200 is coming to mind
Harlen Warner brought the deal to me, and I have funny pictures of him with his long hair sitting next to gorbachev with my stacks of photos, Time magazines, and copies of that nuclear arms treaty sitting in front of him.
We had the 3 different issues of time magazines (which i had to really work hard to find enough copies, the photos, and the nuclear arms agreement signed.

I attempted to get Reagan but did not have a way to get to him, plus at the time he had alzheimers and he was not like Nixon or HW Bush where there was easy access to signings for compensation.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Seeing those holograms gives me douche chills...

Douche chills?

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Douche chills?

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Seeing those holograms gives me douche chills...

I'm picturing a pirate uttering those words, and wondering if one's douche is anywhere near the perineum...?

[Big Dave]

Ken...

I've always told people that Mantle never signed any bats for SB.....Could you verify?

Thanks.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Ken...

I've always told people that Mantle never signed any bats for SB.....Could you verify?

Thanks.

Mantle never signed bats for Scoreboard. Ken will confirm that.