FAKE packs and an FBI Fraud Investigation: What would YOU do?

[CW]

Originally Posted by pepis

Actually Anthony,
it involves some 60s and 80s also all with stars on top and all with clear
evidence of being tampered with, in a way that should never get by an
expert, some of those stars should never be on top like for example
1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
true expert should know that

Um, is this the accused fake pack creator making these statements in this thread? Of so.... um, wow.

[CharleyBrown]

Wow,

If I remember some of the threads on the PSA boards, this guy was flaunting packs with Mantle on top, etc. - he had a killer collection, or so he made everyone believe he did...

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by CW

Um, is this the accused fake pack creator making these statements in this thread? Of so.... um, wow.

There seems to be a lot more to this story. Tell us more pepis.

[sdkammeyer]

Pepis, it seems you are in a world of hurt. Do you care to defend yourself??
OP you have a list of questionable items and have not yet been named in a suit?? Put that info in the air. Why wait until it is legally sealed info??

[frankbmd]

if only the OP was named coek, we could render a decision.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Is Pepis the victim here? This thread started one way, with the OP talking about a "list" being released by PSA, which sounded more than strange to me, and PSA casually saying sell, sell, sell, as if it was not a touchy subject for them, yet conveyed to us as if it were. It then went to Pepis, who speaking less paranoid than the OP, communicated directly, matter of factly....And all along the OP asks about whether or not the FBI would go after victims, etc. Was Pepis trying to tell us something before this came up?: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=161891

I guess we'll never know.

[slidekellyslide]

What a strange thread. Did someone at PSA really tell someone to just sell items in their holders that are possibly fake? I find that incredulous.

[thedutymon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

What a strange thread. Did someone at PSA really tell someone to just sell items in their holders that are possibly fake? I find that incredulous.

Its more than incredulous....I call B.S.

Neil

[pepis]

Originally Posted by sdkammeyer

Pepis, it seems you are in a world of hurt. Do you care to defend yourself??
OP you have a list of questionable items and have not yet been named in a suit?? Put that info in the air. Why wait until it is legally sealed info??

Absolutely no hurt!
when i started my only goal was to show the enormous amount of fraud
that exist in vintage packs and pack grading and if i have to sacrifice
the posibility of any jail time it will be well worth it as the saying goes
the TRUTH shall set me free.

Charley Brown,
the start of this venture started on 12/04/10 after i saw the cu thread in the pic

[dstudeba]

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[Leon]

To all concerned, I am confident authorities are well aware of this thread. I don't think it's jeopardizing anything except a few people's freedom, which is not my main concern, or I would have heard about it.
Fact is certainly stranger than fiction. Kind of a crazy thread. And lastly, please remember our board rules concerning anonymity when posting. I will be putting names in posts, per the rules, when warranted. As the new CU rules say, no more warnings . Edited to add that I agree concerning Steve Hart. From everything I have heard and read he does a great job. If he got fooled then that just makes him human. It seems he is the best in the hobby at what he does, by a good distance.

[Peter_Spaeth]

We clearly don't have all the facts, but if my intent was to show PSA couldn't spot bad packs, I could have made some, sent them in, and then destroyed them or kept them on my shelf. It seems some of these have made their way onto the market, so how did that happen if the intent was pure? Kevin Saucier used to send some of his creations to grading services, as I recall, but didn't then sell them.