Business Ethics opinions needed Please

[calvindog]

From my reading of this conundrum I'd say that Dan is unethical.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by calvindog

From my reading of this conundrum I'd say that Dan is unethical.

Jeff you are all heart!

Funny! and all heart!

[travrosty]

this is easy, of course it is unethical.

it's not like it was an honest typo, like he wanted to charge 400 and accidentally listed it for 4.00

a deal is a deal, this is a no brainer, it is up to the SELLER to have UPDATED listings.

he offered it for 400, the guy bought it, it should be four hundred and a lesson learned for the seller.

should the buyer be able to do the same thing? buy it raw for 400, it gets a low grade than the buyer expected, but not trimmed, now worth 300, he asks the seller to send him 100 because the card wasn't worth the 400 in his mind now. when you buy raw, you buy raw, with the caveat that it isn't altered or trimmed and it is accurately described, but after that, A DEAL IS A DEAL!

Did I say a DEAL IS A DEAL!

think of it from the buyers perspective, this sucks! he bought it in good faith and the seller should buck up and take his lumps and learn to take the card off the website immediately if he wants to send it in for grading.

[drc]

Duly note the original question was ethics not "Would it be nice?" It would be nice if someone gave me a Ferrari, but that's not a matter of ethics.

[teetwoohsix]

If it were me and I had it up for sale for $400.00 I would've honored the sale.

I wouldn't expect him to lose money, he could ask for whatever it cost him to grade it on top of the $400.00, but I think going about it this way (honoring his original price on his website) would probably insure a pretty loyal future customer. Just my opinion.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Jlighter]

The card is the same card. The holder it is contained in is irrelevant.

[bbcarddan]

IMO. I say a deal is a deal. If said card came back from grader as trimmed and only recieved an authentic grade and was now considered to be worth less than $400.00 would this seller offer it for less money now? I tend to doubt it.

[drc]

If the card was really away being graded and the buyer agreed to back out of the $400 deal, I side with the seller. If the buyer agreed to nix the original sale, the buyer agreed to nix the original sale. I'm assuming there wasn't an agreement that the seller would return later and sell the card for $400.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by drc

If the card was really away being graded and the buyer agreed to back out of the $400 deal, I side with the seller. If the buyer agreed to nix the original sale, the buyer agreed to nix the original sale. I'm assuming there wasn't an agreement that the seller would return later and sell the card for $400.

The card was purchased by the buyer at $400. He wanted the card for $400. He wound up paying $700 and feels he was not treated properly but had to have the card. There was never a deal to cancel the original sale, the seller made that decision on his own.

[HRBAKER]

This can happen when you "have" to have something. No way I do that deal but to each their own. Seller may have heard it was "Get a 10" month at PSA, pulled the card and then forgot to change his website.

[drc]

The answer is if the buyer agreed to vacate the original sale, he agreed to vacate the original sale. If he wanted to make a stink about the situation and the $400 he just paid, he could have done it at the time.

And if there was agreement he'd get the card for $400 when it returned from PSA, then, yes, he'd have a legitimate complaint and I'd side with him.

But in the beginning and in the said, I don't know what agreements were involved and what specifically was said between the two, so I'm working with limited details.

And I'm also assuming that if it came back from PSA a trimmed reprint, the potential buyer would have refused to pay $400 for it. So I assume it's not a situation where he was willing to pay the $400 no matter what the PSA verdict.

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by danmckee

The card was purchased by the buyer at $400. He wanted the card for $400. He wound up paying $700 and feels he was not treated properly but had to have the card. There was never a deal to cancel the original sale, the seller made that decision on his own.

one of the main reasons unscrupulous dealers keep doing what they are doing is because People " have to have that card". Just say NO to being ripped off on basebal cards for once. It won't hurt; matter of fact it feels pretty good. A bseball card is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Otherwise it is worthless other than the value of the paper it is printed on. Someone was willing to pay an extra $300 over the $400 he already spent and feels like he was treated badly , but yet he "had to have the card"....BooHoo

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Jlighter

The card is the same card. The holder it is contained in is irrelevant.

Great point. From raw to a PSA 2.5, from $400.00 (which is obviously what the seller decided he'd originally be happy with) to $700.00 (because the buyer showed he really wanted the card by paying for it?).

"$400.00 + grading cost, the card is all yours, thanks for purchasing from me and if you ever need anything in the future feel free to contact me anytime !!!!"

Sincerely, Clayton